eruthros: Delenn from Babylon 5 with a startled expression and the text "omg!" (BtVS cheeseman nonsense)
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This appears in a critique of a BBC period film set in England circa 1900. Ready? Okay!
"I thought it was completely and utterly absurd. It was so out of its time. For example, all the knowledge about sadists -- sexual sadism and, and, psychopathy. Bearing in mind, Freud had only written The Interpretation of Dreams, I think it was published in 1899."
*laughs hysterically* Oh, man, talk about a non sequitor! APPARENTLY, sadism didn't exist until Freud invented psychoanalysis -- you know, it wasn't named, in, like, 1820 after some guy. No! It took Freud to invent the term and tell people all about it!

And, oh man, as if Psychopathia Sexualis hadn't nicely laid all of that out fifteen years prior? And as if folks hadn't bought it to read it as porn?

I love the way people think about Victorian England sometimes, guys.

Date: 2008-12-03 02:31 am (UTC)
ext_7850: by ev_vy (Default)
From: [identity profile] giandujakiss.livejournal.com
Huh. I always thought sexual intercourse was invented in 1963.

Date: 2008-12-03 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thingswithwings.livejournal.com
ahahaha. as if England in 1900 hadn't just spent a century or two being ALL ABOUT SPANKING. seriously, if there's a nation more interested in sadistic assplay than Victorian England, then I have yet to encounter it.

I also love how nobody has a sexual practice until it's named and written about in scientific books. It's like homos: we didn't invent the word until like a century ago therefore there was NO SAME SEX SEXIN before that. Dear everyone: please let me introduce you to Victorian porn. Or Medieval porn, for that matter. kthnxbai.

Date: 2008-12-03 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sol-se.livejournal.com
Ancient Rome was all about the porn. Porn, porn everywhere. You couldn't buy a bowl without porn on it. "Aw man, porn again?" *g*

Date: 2008-12-03 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sineala.livejournal.com
For your edification, a lovely piece of art from Pompeii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Roemer7.JPG). Kids these days think they've invented everything, I tell you.

Also, it's Greek, but here is a plate featuring a youth riding a cock (http://www.worldvisitguide.com/oeuvre/photo_ME0000025132.html).

You can thank me later. :)

Date: 2008-12-03 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sineala.livejournal.com
Also I'm pretty sure Foucault was a big old liar and there were times when the same-sex sexin' got you... an identity! *gasp*

(I leave the details of the argument to someone who knows more, but I've seen things here and there where people sure seem to be attributing an identity to the people who have these, uh, behaviors.)

My work here is done. *bamf*

Date: 2008-12-03 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xensen.livejournal.com
de Sade = 1740–1814

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