eruthros: llamas! (llamas)
For my birthday this past weekend, I got the flu. Now I am achey and tired and cranky and fever-and-chills-y and hard-to-focus-y and I can't read fic and I screwed up the decreases in my knitting like twelve times yesterday because I couldn't count.

So I thought it was time to post a guessing-fannish-stuff meme!

Some months ago, [personal profile] aria posted a bunch of post secret-style secrets from the POV of various characters, and asked people to guess who wrote which secret. At the time I thought it was a great idea, and wanted to turn it into a meme (again), but then it took me a long time to make any secrets, and also to come up with secrets, and anyway I'm bad at getting around to posting things, so I just stuck them over in posts-to-maybe-make-someday. But today is clearly a good day for it!

Behind the cut: forty-some secrets by characters from twenty-some fandoms; includes text descriptions )

One NSFW secret is here, under a separate cut )

I'd love to play in your versions, too! )

ETA: There are two secrets left unguessed (counting the ones where someone made an awesome guess, but nobody guessed what I'd originally intended): #7 and 41. So I thought I'd narrow down the fandoms somewhat; the remaining ones come from: Stargate SG-1 and Nintendo video games.
eruthros: Delenn building the crystal machine in season 1  of B5, captioned "foreshadowing" (B5 - Delenn incredible foreshadowing)
Recently I've been rewatching Star Trek: Voyager, and reading a lot in the Vorkosigan-verse, and the combination of those two things means that I've seen a lot of recs for two particular stories. And it made me think about the stories that get widely recced or read outside of the fandoms for those sources - the stories that many, many people have read with minimal canon knowledge, or without having read any other stories in the fandom, or without caring about the characters, or whatever.

To explain what I mean more clearly, here are some of mine:

1) Vorkosigan-verse, A Deeper Season by [personal profile] lightgetsin and [personal profile] sahiya

When I first read A Deeper Season, I'd read the Vorkosigan books but had absolutely no fandom knowledge - I didn't know where communities or archives or stories were - but basically the instant I told people I'd been reading the books, I got this rec. And I'm pretty sure that many of the people reccing it had only read this one story in the fandom, too, because I would usually get people who said "I don't read in the fandom, but ..." and "I don't even know the canon, but ..."

It is, in fact, an awesome story, and I love it to pieces. But the point here is not really about the story per se, it's about that kind of shared fannish experience without even being in the fandom. I suspect that it's still (one of) the stories people read despite not being in the fandom, because I occasionally see people on my rlist who say "I just read some Vorkosigan, where's the fic?" and there, in the first couple of comments, is "I don't read in the fandom, but A Deeper Season!" (Unless the post is about Ivan, in which case the recs are from a different fandom than the one I usually read in.)

2) Star Trek: Voyager, Talking Stick/Circle series by Macedon and Peg.

I watched the early seasons of Voyager sort of casually, and without much interest in fic, so IIRC I hadn't read much of anything before this story. Like most of the other things on this list, it was recced by someone; in this case, when I was complaining about the way that the Maquis-Starfleet tensions rarely came up on the show, and the way some of the Chakotay episodes made me flinch, somebody ([personal profile] sineala?) said "you know, someone has fixed that," and recced this series. And then I read it, and it was indeed great, and influential, in the sense that I often forget that Macedon's Chakotay backstory is not canon Chakotay's backstory, and then I started doing the same thing: people would say "I've never read any Voyager fic" and I would rec this story and nothing else because I hadn't read much else.

Much later, I read a bunch of other Voyager stories (Janeway/Seven! strange crossovers! Harry/Tom!), but Talking Stick/Circle remained the only thing I'd read in Voyager for two years or so. And now that I'm rewatching Voyager, I still see a ton of recs for it.

3) Harry Potter, A Most Disquieting Tea series by telanu.

This is kind of funny, now, since I've read a ton of Harry Potter fanfiction since, and since HP fandoms are so giant and sprawling and whatever. But back before I knew anything about Harry Potter fandoms, I had just read the books and maybe a couple of Harry/Ron and Harry/Draco stories by authors I'd followed in other fandoms. And then at least two people on my flist recced "A Most Disquieting Tea," and I went and read it, and I went "oh, all right." I think when I was linked to it there were only three or maybe four stories in the series, and I haven't actually read all of the sequels since, but at the time I could talk about it with many, many people who had read no other Harry Potter fanfic. (A couple of years later I went through Walking the Plank with serious dedication, and "A Most Disquieting Tea" is far from the best Harry/Snape story I read then, but it was still a big deal in my circles of not-in-the-fandoms earlier.)

I suspect that for other people, Cassandra Claire's Draco Trilogy was That Story from (a different part of) HP fandom, but I never managed to read more than a couple chapters of it. It was widely recced around me, but I never really got it in the same way.

So the interesting thing about this is, it's basically impossible to think about it for fandoms I was in when I was reading the fic. Like, Stargate Atlantis - I read a million stories, and I followed a bunch of recs, and I watched all the vids, so I have no idea what story or stories were widely read outside of the fandom. Was it one of the early ones, like maybe [personal profile] astolat's A Beautiful Lifetime Event? Was it [personal profile] helenish's Take Clothes Off As Directed? Or maybe [personal profile] cesperanza's epic Written By the Victors? But on the other hand, maybe Written By the Victors requires too much canon knowledge, and Take Clothes Off As Directed is, after all, a bdsm au, which is perhaps not as likely to be widely recced, and who knows which of the season one or two stories would be most popular. Or maybe it's something I didn't even really notice at the time, or something different from the stuff that was widely recced on my rlists. I have no idea.

Anyway! I'd be interested to hear about any of your experiences with that one (or two or three) stories that were widely read and recced by people not in the fandom.
eruthros: llamas! (llamas)
1. A rec! Vorkosigan-verse, missing scene three months, [archiveofourown.org profile] philomytha's Aral Vorkosigan's Dog. It's set during the Barrayaran-Escobaran War, when Illyan's mission is basically to follow Vorkosigan around and watch everything he does, and it's all about how he stops being a neutral observer and how watching changes him. (Note: this story involves Ges Vorrutyer, so it includes rape and torture and the same predatory-kinky-bisexual-evil-dude thing as the book does.)

This is the kind of story where the two main characters don't sleep with each other, and I almost don't need it, because that moment when Illyan holds out his hands in silent fealty - and when he thinks of himself as Aral's loyal dog - oh geez, guys, it it amazing.

Though that doesn't mean that I would turn down an Aral/Cordelia Aral/Simon story in which Cordelia gives Simon her blessing and they all love each other fiercely. You know. If anybody has one on offer. There's [personal profile] dira's amazing Aral/Cordelia and Aral/Jole series - The World That You Need - which I love a lot and think is great and does a lot of nice poly/open relationship things. But it doesn't feature Simon.

And while I'm doing Vorkosigan recs, philomytha also wrote Dazzled, a snippet in which Duv Galeni imagines swearing a fealty oath to Aral Vorkosigan and is immensely drawn to the idea. Neo-feudalism and oaths of loyalty, guys, some fandoms just bring the gen kink and the fascinations with power dynamics. Fantasy and scifi novels that play with monarchy and patriarchy and feudalism and take them seriously, that want that system back and want to be on top of that pyramid, often make me uncomfortable. But make it a story about revolution, or a story about erotics - about the way someone can subvert that power pyramid and take power back by getting off on it in interesting ways - and I am so there.

2. While waiting nearly two hours for potatoes to bake:

eruthros: COOK, potatoes, I am hungry!
bitter_crimson: COOOOOOK
eruthros: life is hard
eruthros: so are these potatoes
eruthros: woe

3. [personal profile] anatsuno's tab-meme. Basically the rules are: tell the internet about the tabs you have open, without editing for guilty-pleasures reasons (though obv editing for RL info is fine). My list of open tabs )

4. I have been so fucking tired today. I don't know why. I slept plenty of hours! I went to bed at a more reasonable hour than I often do! But I just barely managed to claw my way out of bed this morning, and all day I was so tired I couldn't even focus on the laptop to watch tv. I tried sugar and protein and a walk out in the cold (to the coffee shop) and a soy latte (from the coffee shop) and nothing worked. But I was determined to send this story off for beta tonight, and I did, so there, exhaustion.
eruthros: Delenn from Babylon 5 with a startled expression and the text "omg!" (FF + Dinosaur comics = best icon ever)
1. Okay, so someone has done a Dalek Christmas carol. The Go Go's recorded "I'm Gonna Spend My Christmas With a Dalek." Only it's not at all what I'm thinking of -- the Dalek says things like "I'd like some more plum pudding." I don't want "I'd like some more plum pudding" and "we'll hug under the Christmas tree" and the human chorus going "Merry Chwithmas." (Tonstant weader thwowed up.)

No. I want ominous. I want "Joy to the World" to be the scariest (funniest) damn thing you've ever heard. I want creepy. This is not it.

2. [livejournal.com profile] wiccanslyr did a SGA vid. McKay. To "White and Nerdy." It's at youtube here or available for download here.

3. I never really manage to read Yuletide. It's cool and fabulous but, dude, 1000+ stories? Nonetheless, I have enjoyed:

Lives by Breaking, a Pevensies-at-the-end-of-Wardrobe story.

Further Up and Further In, an Aslan's country story.

Changelings, a story in the Finder/Bordertown universe (Emma Bull). It's a happy story, but Tinker as a young elf made me sniffle.

Happiness is Fleeting, a Penny Arcade story that is almost exactly like a comic. Gabe! Tycho! Monkeys!

Of Mice and Myth, a creepy little HHGttG/Teatime story. With mice. Fantabulous.

The Long Con, a Vorkosiganverse story. Oh, Byerly! There should be more stories about By. And Ivan. And Alys throwing up her hands.

A Maze of Twisty Passages, All Alike, a Vorkosiganverse story. GREGOR. Gregor and Ivan. Go read it now.

Wag the Duck. Bloom County. Manages to get across the total weirdness of the strip in prose form. Also, it is a BLOOM COUNTY story. With lines like "In the last election, he had been opposed by a sincere but politically inexperienced ficus plant." And Binkley wakes his dad up in the middle of the night to ask if Madonna will ever be in a good movie.

Pop Life because it's a War for the Oaks story. Eddie and the Fey, one year later.

Random!

Apr. 18th, 2006 07:49 pm
eruthros: Wizard of Oz: Dorothy in black and white, text "rainbow" in rainbow colors (Dorothy singing rainbow)
1. From this axcessnews article on gay parents and the Easter events at the White House:

Rueben Israel, 43, of Los Angeles, flew in for the protest, knowing the homosexual families would attend the event. He demonstrated with electric cables how he saw those relationships as not being right in God's eyes.

"This doesn't work," he said, holding two yellow cables by their plugs and pushing them together.

He then turned one plug around so it would fit into the socket: "This works."

*rolls eyes* Ah, the "God created extension cords as exemplars of the ideal human relationship" theory. In this theory, I suppose, God created humans in his image in 1904, when electrical plugs were patented. (Though that too proves problematic: who then patented the plug?) Either that or Harvey Hubbell is an unknown prophet. Or (my favorite) this man is NUTS. I mean, does he seriously believe that the gay people will go "shit! You're right, if we were extension cords, you couldn't plug us together! Clearly we are not natural!" without then thinking "wait, neither are extension cords..."?

2. Yesterday I accumulated much good karma. I got into the train station downtown early, so I stopped by Reading Terminal to buy something for lunch, and ran into a huge group of junior high and high school students who were in town for some debate thing and had been given ten minutes in groups of five or more to find and eat breakfast. Ten minutes! At Reading Terminal, which is largely closed at eight am! *thwaps adults involved* Anyway, I was at Met Bakery when one of the adults came by with a kid in a wheelchair, looking for coffee and pastries, and I let them in front of me in line for the pastries and pointed them toward Old City Coffee. And then I ran into a group of kids wandering the aisles and saying things like "well, if I wanted raw tuna for breakfast..." and "maybe I'll just get some juice..." and pointed them toward Le Bus Bakery, and then encountered a third set of kids, with one boy playing the John Sheppard countdown role ("we have five minutes! we have four minutes and fifty seconds!") in order to encourage the others, and pointed them to Met Bakery and a smoothie place. And then more students! All in all, I spent fifteen minutes at Reading Terminal, most of it saying "okay, head down this aisle to the end and then turn left, continue up five aisles and you'll be at a coffee place..." Poor kidlets.

3. I have this Vorkosigan universe/Stargate Atlantis crossover in my head. No, I don't know either. See, it starts mid-sentence, with Miles and Gregor suddenly aware of where they are, and John's doing his "McKay, we'll be dead in thirty seconds!" thing over his shoulder, and Miles is trying to find out where they are and what's going on and who kidnapped them and shoving Gregor behind him and drawing his stunner, and Rodney's ignoring them except to say things like "yes, yes, you can thank me for saving your lives later" and "it was nothing, now shut up -- or, wait, better, go on, distract the man with the shield generator! that's a brilliant idea!" because he's not listening to a word Miles says, and John can't look at them because he's firing out the door but he's still all "argue later, McKay," and Gregor just looks bemused because it's the weirdest kidnap/assassination attempt ever, and then Rodney manages to rig the Random Ancient Equipment to protect them all just as the wraith dart self-destructs.

And then everyone yells for a while, and Rodney keeps trying to persuade them that he wasted valuable seconds beaming them out of the wraith dart so they wouldn't die, and John politely doesn't mention that it was sort of his idea, though he probably wouldn't have mentioned it if he'd known how tight the timing was going to be, and of course Miles is a paranoid bastard and doesn't believe a word of it because it can't be demonstrated, the wraith dart having kaboomed and buried them in the ruined ancient wossname until Teyla and Ronon can dig them out, and he introduces himself as Lord Miles Vorkosigan of Barrayar, and of course John and Rodney don't know where that is, which leads to another incredulous and loud-volumed digression before Miles finally says "... and this is my friend Greg" (because, while he thinks they kidnapped Gregor on purpose, he's not positive, and why risk it) and McKay says "and does he ever talk?" and Gregor has to stifle laughter and eventually they all agree to keep on with the paranoia but stop the yelling, especially because Miles can't see any way out of the ruins, but he and Gregor keep having strategy conversations in Barrayaran Greek and Rodney keeps making snide comments about how stupid they are that they can't even recognize rescue. And eventually they get to the stargate to go back to Atlantis, and Miles insists on going first and makes Gregor wait for his confirmation that it won't kill them, and oh my god you see what I mean?

I even know what kind of AR the Vorkosigan-verse is: it's one where the Ancients never made it to the Milky Way, so there are no stargates, just natural wormholes, and thus there are no Goa'uld manipulating Ancient technology. And then there are conversations about whether the mirror can take them back to a universe in which that same mirror doesn't exist, and Miles is still being a suspicious bastard, and so on.

Seriously. Where did this come from?

4. I saw a girl today wearing camouflage flip-flops. With heels. And a little camo-tassel. Very disconcerting.

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