eruthros: llamas! (llamas)
2011-03-29 08:56 pm

guess which character wrote that secret

For my birthday this past weekend, I got the flu. Now I am achey and tired and cranky and fever-and-chills-y and hard-to-focus-y and I can't read fic and I screwed up the decreases in my knitting like twelve times yesterday because I couldn't count.

So I thought it was time to post a guessing-fannish-stuff meme!

Some months ago, [personal profile] aria posted a bunch of post secret-style secrets from the POV of various characters, and asked people to guess who wrote which secret. At the time I thought it was a great idea, and wanted to turn it into a meme (again), but then it took me a long time to make any secrets, and also to come up with secrets, and anyway I'm bad at getting around to posting things, so I just stuck them over in posts-to-maybe-make-someday. But today is clearly a good day for it!

Behind the cut: forty-some secrets by characters from twenty-some fandoms; includes text descriptions )

One NSFW secret is here, under a separate cut )

I'd love to play in your versions, too! )

ETA: There are two secrets left unguessed (counting the ones where someone made an awesome guess, but nobody guessed what I'd originally intended): #7 and 41. So I thought I'd narrow down the fandoms somewhat; the remaining ones come from: Stargate SG-1 and Nintendo video games.
eruthros: Grant Imahara from Mythbusters wearing a Star Trek TOS science uniform and Vulcan ear extensions (Mythbusters - grant in a star trek unifo)
2009-10-22 02:57 pm

This just in!

I was googling for images for something else last night when I came upon the following information: MYTHBUSTERS IS GOING TO TEST THE GORN CANNON FROM STAR TREK TOS. It totally deserves the allcaps, because this is going to be awesome. A) Kirk makes his own gunpowder and fires diamonds and b) Grant bought himself a Star Trek shirt. Yes. The build team is going to test it, and so Grant bought a TOS science-officer shirt and some Vulcan ear extension things and a communicator and a tribble and a yellow shirt for Tory and a red shirt for Buster. And then he took pictures of it all! For reals!

SO, as a consequence, I made an icon, because what can you do when faced with that much concentrated awesome?

And, while I'm posting icons, I thought I'd include some random ones I made in the last few days or found in my icon-making folder. Three more Mythbusters, three Dead Zone, two Sentinel, three of Martha Jones being awesome, one SG-1, one Batman comics, and a whole bunch of video game icons )
eruthros: ST: TOS, Spock holding a kitten (ST: TOS - Spock and kitten)
2009-05-20 04:13 pm

Random fannish photo-sharing time!

SO, I woke up today with a cold and feeling all blech, so I have been drinking tea and watching TOS. Because I'd never seen "The Cage!" And because seeing the new movie reminded me of how much I enjoy old Trek, even (perhaps especially) when the aliens are dogs wearing horns. And thus, I would like to share with you a hilarious scene from "What Are Little Girls Made Of," aka "the one where Nurse Chapel gets to have snarky dialogue at her ex."

oh, Kirk )

And also, while I'm sharing random fannish pictures, I love Leverage a lot you guys. But at first, when I was watching it, I had a small problem with some Eliot-related double-vision. This is what I mean )
eruthros: Delenn from Babylon 5 with a startled expression and the text "omg!" (BtVS cheeseman nonsense)
2009-03-17 03:47 pm

A true story that is true

In which [ profile] thingswithwings and I finally realize the TRUTH about the scifi channel's monster movies. The horrifying, Philip-K-Dickian truth.

frightening details behind the cut )
eruthros: Delenn from Babylon 5 with a startled expression and the text "omg!" (Default)
2008-03-18 07:11 pm

Random fannish things!

When [ profile] thingswithwings and I were watching a recent Smallville vid, that I billed to her as "awesome but kind of weird because I don't recognize half the clips in it," I pointed to a scene where Lex and Clark were on either side of a stained glass door panel. "Look! Separated by stained glass!" "Ah-ha," said [ profile] thingswithwings, "on Smallville, slash is what happens when you take away the stained glass."* Then we agreed that this was a perfect description of the way the show works: just plain glass isn't enough. Then you can see what's on the other side!

(See, we're collecting Separated By Glass moments. These include, among others, the fabulous ice-wall in X2, and various people in hazmat suits, and things like that, but I also want to include Daniel in "Meridian." Because I think that Daniel/Death is really the SG1 OTP.** Daniel is separated from his death by glass! Daniel breaks through the glass trying to reach his desires! Daniel gazes longingly at ascension! He and ascension totally pass the broccoli test!)

Speaking of people who pass the broccoli test, we also watched a Once a Thief vid ("When I'm Up," by Lynn, Jill, and Kay, available here and determined that Vic and Mac have demonstrated on multiple occasions that they pass the broccoli test, but only when the broccoli is a gun. Or possibly a large knife, or a chainsaw.

Also, that vid made us want to go back and watch Once a Thief again, because seriously: trampoline fights. Chainsaw fencing. Stuck-on-top-of-a-just-married-car. Fighting with clowns. Moonwalking! Pop-up windows like we're in a VH1 music video! Two different endings to the series! Why Once a Thief is not in multi vids all the time for the hilarious visuals I don't know.

ALSO also, we were discussing what urban legends in Pegasus must be like. "Then he was passing by the gate, and three stones came through: tap, tap, tap" etc. And I said, okay, but the problem with an urban legends challenge is that there'll be a lot of stuff that's basically a direct translation of an urban legend into Pegasus. "Like," I said, "there's a serial killer in the backseat of the puddlejumper!" *pause* "It was John."

* This is also true of John Sheppard. For example, the stained glass door to the gym closing on John in "Hot Zone" -- Atlantis and the Ancients say "no, John, you can't have that, and you can't even see it." Just saying.

** Also, John/pain is totally the SGA OTP. And unlike other OTPs? This one is acknowledged by the camera and the writing all the time! (See [ profile] thingswithwings's proof in her vid here.)
eruthros: Delenn from Babylon 5 with a startled expression and the text "omg!" (Default)
2007-06-10 08:42 pm

We have cracktastic IM conversations so you don't have to!

This is a brilliant story of Major Evan Lorne's tragic painterly life! Because he grew up painting only male nudes in his mom's studio, and now he is in the military! Woe.

Today, we went crazy )
eruthros: Delenn from Babylon 5 with a startled expression and the text "omg!" (BtVS cheeseman nonsense)
2007-03-22 02:21 pm

Random post N.1

Things that will make me bail on an SGA story: killing off Jack O'Neill in a tossed-aside line. Or, really, any of the other SG1 folks. The author might only watch SGA, but she's got to know that some readers will have been SG1 fans first. That is Jack. That is Jack. Fucking. O'Neill. He gets more than "... and Jack O'Neill was dead, so we had to work with a new guy." NO. For one, Jack O'Neill isn't dead. He's never dead. Not really. If you want to get him out of the way, say he's stranded somewhere or missing or the building he was in exploded and we don't know what happened to him or having to do other work or off in the Asgard home galaxy. For another, I will resent it a lot of you kill of an SG1 character just to make the danger seem "real" to your SGA characters, and don't indicate that said SGA characters are impacted at all by his death. And yet people do it all the time.

I hate it just as much when authors make Sam Carter or other SG1 folks evil, especially since it's usually a clear sign that they haven't seen the source. But usually there are lots of other marks that a story like that will suck, so.


Interesting: apparently a French-Canadian publisher accidentally published Highlander fanfiction. Worse: he accidentally published plagiarized Highlander fanfiction. If you read French, you can read about it all here; if not, I'll summarize below.

1. A French fan, Frederic Jeorge, writes a HL story in 2001.
2. Marie-Pier Cote, a twelve-year-old fan rips it off. As La Presse says: "Same characters. Same sentences. Same commas."
3. A not-so-great editor, Michel Brule, publishes it as "Laura, the Immortal." (French-language book.) There's huge hoopla about a twelve-year-old girl writing fiction. So interesting! So precocious! Etc.
4. La Presse is all: um, isn't this kinda like Highlander? And then Frederic Jeorge says, wait, it's not just like Highlander, it's my story.
5. Michel Brule says: okay, I should have "taken precautions" before publishing a twelve-year-old's book. He says: but her mom told me she wrote it!
6. Frederic Jeorge says: um, shouldn't I be getting the royalties here?
7. Michel Brule says: dear Cotes, please give me all my money back. Also, pay me damages to repair my good name. After all, I shouldn't have to check a book before publishing it! I shouldn't even have to read a whole novel! (He didn't read the whole book.)

Interesting, no? Now, I have to say that I think the editor's more at fault here than he is claiming -- editors get lots of manuscripts, and they should be read by several people before they are published. Ideally, one of those several people would've noticed the whole heads-cut-off thing; after all, Highlander was a movie and you don't have to be fannish to know about it. But even so, there is google! It looks a lot like the editor was all "I will get publicity because the author is so young" and didn't even think about it seriously.
eruthros: SG1: Daniel Jackson, text: "I never wanted to be an archaeologist... I wanted to be a lumberjack!"  (SG1 - A Lumberjack!)
2007-02-23 11:14 am

Poll, again

SO. Comments indicated that that was, in fact, the kind of poll that pressured people into too few options -- after all, we agreed, Emancipation was awful and had no redeeming features, but other episodes were just... kinda bad. Or mediocre. So! Take two behind this here cut )

This is way more interesting than my reading. Which either says something about my attitude towards fandom (loosely summarized as "yes! let's talk about it more! in greater detail!") or about my current reading or both.

Anyway, do feel free to point folks thisaway -- gateworld and all them sorts have ranking systems, but their results are all messed up by Non-Media-Fans getting involved. People who don't know what I'm talking about when I joke about Rodney and dolphins! Or how Daniel should be singing "I've Got a Theory" from the Buffy musical, especially the end. How can they understand important character development?
eruthros: SG1: Daniel Jackson, text: "I never wanted to be an archaeologist... I wanted to be a lumberjack!"  (SG1 - A Lumberjack!)
2007-02-22 10:55 pm

(no subject)

So I have convinced [ profile] graycastle that even if Emancipation and Broca Divide made her want to claw her eyes out, some of Stargate SG-1's first season is cool. And I was going to tell her what episodes to not watch, and which to definitely watch, and which to sort of go "whatever" about, but then I thought: hey! we're fandom! Let's do a poll instead. Let's have discussion! And consensus! And things!

So! A poll behind the cut. It's got a list of episodes, and I want y'all to tell me if they suck, or if they're awesome. Why do polls have a maximum of fifteen items per question? )
eruthros: Delenn building the crystal machine in season 1  of B5, captioned "foreshadowing" (B5 - Delenn incredible foreshadowing)
2007-01-14 09:27 am

Over-thinking things

Two fannish take-offs on tossed aside lines...

One silly response to a line from Doctor Who series 2/28. About as spoilery as the title of the episode in question. (2x05) Behind the cut! )

And the second, from a tossed-aside line in the latest episode of Stargate: SG-1. It spoils... the theme of the last two seasons. Shocker, no? Behind the cut )
eruthros: SG1: Daniel Jackson, text: "I never wanted to be an archaeologist... I wanted to be a lumberjack!"  (SG1 - A Lumberjack!)
2006-08-05 10:52 pm

I know I should just handwave, but...

Okay, this is really starting to bug me: what kind of economic structure did the Ancients on Atlantis have?

If they were capitalists, why haven't we seen delivery systems into the apartments, or replicators, or shops? Where are the Ancient implants or ATMs or biometric readers or other scientific thingamabobs that would let the Ancients buy things? The Ancients clearly didn't strip Atlantis entirely, so we should be able to recognize stores from shape and design and, presumably, a little bit of stock left. And Rodney would be on any kind of replicator or instant-delivery system in seconds, and making Star Trek jokes the whole time. The place is the size of Manhattan; where did the Ancients buy white robes or hair product or neat kicky boots or tea or personalized puddle-jumpers with fuzzy dice in the windows?

And since we don't see any of that, I have to ask: were the Ancient socialists? But if they were, where were their food production centers? Was there central planning that determined which roots to really focus on growing this year? Were there Ancient farms? How did they decide who got which quarters? Did they have a commons system? Did they have population pressures on said system?

Did they barter with other Pegasus galaxy dudes? If so, what did they barter? Because they don't seem to have a labor force that's producing anything. Where are the Ancient factories? (Or replicators. I'd take replicators. Though then I'd be wondering where there were replicators big enough to build the Stargates.)

(Ooooh! They should have a gift economy! With aggrandizing individuals giving away more than they get and being regarded as leaders! There could be huge feasts, and gift exchange, and ties of obligation and reciprocity. But that still doesn't solve the problem of where they're getting the things they are giving away.)

Who supported the Ancients when they were attempting to attain Ascension via endless meditation?

(This bugs me in the Ori galaxy too, though not as much: the followers of the Ori spend how much of the day in prayer? Six hours a day? So, what, do they have the most fertile land ever? Or are the Priors wandering around and doing the weeding and milking for them?)

I know, I know. Suck it up and handwave.
eruthros: SG1: Daniel Jackson, text: "I never wanted to be an archaeologist... I wanted to be a lumberjack!"  (SG1 - A Lumberjack!)
2006-08-05 02:13 pm

SG1 and SGA: Insiders and Sateda

Okay, I'm out of the habit of writing episode reviews, but I had to say just one little thing about Sateda. And then it kinda... grew. So. Spoilers for both Stargates, comments on both eps.

spoilers for SG1 )

spoilers for SGA )
eruthros: Delenn from Babylon 5 with a startled expression and the text "omg!" (Default)
2006-03-08 04:26 pm

(no subject)

Why having some actors play characters who are older than they are and simultaneously having other actors play characters who are younger than they are is a bad idea. I'm going to use Stargate SG-1, home to Michael Shanks as Daniel Jackson, one of few actors to play someone older than he is -- if Daniel were Michael Shank's age, he would have had three Ph.D.s and be on his way out of the profession at twenty-three, which seems rather excessive. (Sadly, Sam Carter's age has never been given on the show, so we're going to have to leave her out of this discussion.)

So. Michael Shanks (1970) playing Daniel Jackson (1965), Ben Browder (1962) playing Cam Mitchell (1971ish; he was ten in 1981), and Richard Dean Anderson (1950) playing Jack O'Neill (1952 or 1957). This means that, while Michael Shanks is the youngest of these actors by eight years, his character is in fact supposed to be sixish years older than Ben Browder's character. And no wonder everyone's having trouble working out Mitchell's past and his interactions -- he's the youngest of the four current members of SG-1, but Ben Browder is the oldest member of the group of actors. Whoops?
eruthros: closeup on apples, text "fruit porn" (fruit porn - apples)
2006-02-06 02:21 pm

Random post!

I did make some fabulous blueberry muffins, though, which I called a celebration even though I was planning on baking them anyway -- last weekend I was Iron Chef [ profile] eruthros. [ profile] m_shell realized, at about nine in the morning, that she had to take food to the choir rehearsal. And that she couldn't stop on the way and get anything, 'cause the car was kablooey, and she was going to be taking the bus. So I did the fastest paging-through-a-cookbook-looking-for-fast-recipes-I-had-all-the-ingredients-for EVER, and we decided on blueberry muffins (frozen blueberries, natch). I should've cut the lemon zest to speed them up, but I still got the muffins made and cooked in about half an hour, and then [ profile] m_shell grabbed them and ran off to church, and then her choir ate them all and I didn't get to taste any. So I made some yesterday. Nummy! From Mollie Katzen's Sunlight Cafe, like practically all muffins we cook now. They turned out very well, even though I was an idiot at Trader Joe's and somehow managed to buy lime yoghurt (look, it said "cream lime plain lowfat," and I saw the word "plain," and anyway the container is identical to the one I usually get, and excuses, excuses). Last week's, similarly, were apparently good even though I could swear that I left out the baking soda (never cook a recipe with both baking powder and baking soda at top speed; you'll forget one of the two). Which ... I dunno, maybe it's just a recipe with a lot of flexibility.


Query: if you were looking for screencaps of SG-1 (original team or with Jonas or with Cam) striding off together to save the world, what episodes would you think of? Other than "Serpent's Grasp?" Sadly, they tend to save the world in little isolate pockets these days. I mean, in Reckoning, Daniel's off being ... brain-whammied by Replicators, and Sam's with Jacob and trying to fix the Ancient Weapon to kill replicators, and Jack's at SGC, and. Hardly the bold stride of the credits, where they all walk though the stargate in unison.

Query (2): has anyone ever studied the internet phenomenon that results in every parody song being attributed to Weird Al? Even, like, songs sung by women? (Anyone who thinks Weird Al sang "What If God Smoked Cannabis?" is clearly smoking the good stuff.)

Also, I am tempted by that song meme -- where you pick a number, or a couple of numbers, and I upload the song corresponding to that number on a complete playlist of mp3s. Problem: this computer is barely five weeks old; I don't really have interesting and weird stuff on it yet. Except the Hindi version of Dancing Queen. And the entirety of the extant Camp Records songs. And most of what I do have is old; it's practically all ripped off CD, and since I haven't purchased those weird round silver things in years, well. If you promise not to mock me for the weird combination of the sixties and the mid-nineties, leave a number (or two or three) between 1 and ... *pokes music folder* ... 1632 in the comments, and I'll upload those songs for everyone's listening pleasure.

Also, new icon. I had one with a much better border, but then photoshop crashed, and I couldn't seem to get the exact same shade of red again. Curses! I have a similar one with strawberries, if anyone wants it.
eruthros: Delenn building the crystal machine in season 1  of B5, captioned "foreshadowing" (B5 - Delenn incredible foreshadowing)
2006-01-29 01:57 am

Stargate poll!

So this springs out of a conversation with [ profile] sineala -- how many times has Daniel died, really?

The poll is behind a cut for the uber-spoiler-sensitive, but it only covers episodes through the end of season eight. Feel free to vote even if you haven't seen the show or all of the show or that particular episode; I tried to describe the death scene as best I could.

ETA: Mostly, I'm wondering because I was trying to count up Dead Daniels to see what the final tally would be if the SG-1 team were to sing the Buffy musical -- you know, "it's do or die / hey, I've died twice at least five times!"

Daniel's dead. Again. )
eruthros: Ivanova from B5 saying "boom boom boom boom" to Londo -- angry icon!! (B5 - Ivanova boom)
2006-01-20 01:57 pm

Stargate: Atlantis

Okay, I know that pondering about the physics (or any science, or the canon, or the aliens, or the religions, or ... well, anything) of Stargate usually leads to migraines and having to go lie down for a few hours, but I just have to ask and deal with the consequences.

1. Atlantis has an iris over the stargate.

2. Therefore should not the Atlanteans have their own GDO/IDC-broadcasting things?

And yet we haven't seen them. At least, I don't think we've seen them -- what we've seen is gate folks interpreting IDC codes using a Dell laptop. (The prevalence of the Inspiron in the Pegasus galaxy still makes me giggle. I mean, I know they brought them along, and I'm sure Dell gives a great military-bulk discount, but I associate the blue-topped Inspiron very strongly with poor students, so.)

3. I want to see Atlantean IDC-ish things. Because they would be cooler. I mean, at some point Stargate Command said "hey, it would be really handy if an IDC code could come with an attached preselected message," so now SG-1 can just send a little message that says "hi, it's us, we're under fire." Or whatever. But the Atlanteans should have something better than that, because they can turn on their technology just by thinking at it. So they could just have little GDOs under their skin, where they couldn't be taken away, and where no amount of torture would reveal the codes because it would all be brain-wave based, and then Sheppard could think "Atlantis, it's us, we're coming home, four coming through" and the iris would automatically close right behind them. Or, you know, the Genii want to walk through with Sheppard, and he'd just think "keep the door locked for the first few guys, but make sure it's open for me." And it would, because all he'd have to do is think "I'm stepping through now" just as he hit the event horizon. And sure, maybe a Genii would get through if they were in lockstep, but whatever. It would still be cool.

We all know Atlantis is like a big puppy around Sheppard; it's mean of them to not let it run to the door when he comes home. Metaphorically speaking.

Actually, on the GDO subject, I've always wondered about the iris. I mean, the idea is that it keeps stuff from rematerializing (which should really mean that the stuff doesn't go thump, because it isn't there to go thump), but we know that the Ancients built the gates, and that they can write code for the gates which prevents certain things from going through an event horizon. It's unclear whether atmosphere goes through, but we know that water doesn't -- Sam says something stupid about density, I think, in the episode Watergate. So couldn't the Ancients have written code that doesn't allow Wraith DNA through? That would be cool; they could send their darts through all the wanted, but the pilots wouldn't come out on the other side. I mean, an iris is a useful backup and protects against the things they haven't specifically excluded yet, but surely we can do better just by messing with the gate. Wraith walks in, gets put together all wrong on the other side. It would be fun!

(The stargate baffles me. It needs to be connected to a power source to receive wormholes, except when we go to Hadante. It won't close if there's a radio signal being sent through, except when it closes right behind Our Heroes. It won't close on matter, except when it does. It doesn't open if there's material inside the ring itself, unless the material is not that dense (water, sure, but I predict that burying it in sand would not be that effective), but clear that out and it'll whoosh open and destroy everything in its path.)

Clearly, I need to stop thinking about this. Because trying to logic it out will only break my brain.
eruthros: Delenn from Babylon 5 with a startled expression and the text "omg!" (BtVS cheeseman nonsense)
2005-11-10 08:48 am

Oh. My. God.

Speaking of crossovers (as I'm sure we all were), take a look at this. Someone recommended this to me.

So. Wrong. I mean, the writing is pretty bad, but there's something else that's even more wrong. Hint: one of the members of SG-1 is sekritly Harry Potter.

eruthros: Delenn from Babylon 5 with a startled expression and the text "omg!" (BtVS cheeseman nonsense)
2005-08-14 10:36 pm


So yesterday I gave my sister the part of her (v. belated) birthday present that she didn't already know about. (The part she did know about couldn't be a surprise -- we went to the yarn store in Orinda, and she picked out her first yarn, and I got her bamboo needles to match and a cheapo practice yarn to futz with first, and taught her to knit.) Anyway, I got her a card game that won both best party game of the year AND Mensa's best game award -- which is a really odd combination, you have to admit -- and yesterday we pulled it out after dessert and played four games and our whole group of early-to-bed-ers stayed up until after midnight and didn't even notice and laughed hysterically. I pulled muscles laughing so hard. And then today we played again after dinner -- "just one short game" that turned into three games, with much giggling. In short: I highly recommend Apples to Apples.

Also, I have this ridiculous plot bunny where, see, there are these NID-related bad guys who have an Ancient artifact that will Do Impressive Stuff, but they don't know exactly what, and they want to find out, and they go all "huh, we need really smart guys who won't shoot us" and then they think "hey, we have handy connections to the government and know all about these civilian consultants" and then they kidnap Daniel Jackson and Charlie Eppes because they think the two of them will be, you know, polite and malleable and little wussy civilians. And wham! The two of them are thrown into a cell together (in an abandoned warehouse, natch) and Daniel's all "Doctor Daniel Jackson, linguistics and archaeology, but I imagine they want me because I'm a polyglot -- I've done some translation work as a consultant with the government." (This is largely because I want Daniel to say "polyglot" instead of being all "hey, I speak 43 languages because I'm a linguist.") And Charlie's all "how odd, I'm Doctor Charlie Eppes, applied math, and I do consulting work with the government too."

And so they work out that The Baddies must want them to do some work, and Daniel's all "well, whatever it is, we can't do it," and Charlie asks why, and Daniel says "I take civilian consulting jobs -- don't you?" and Charlie says yes, and Daniel's all "well, I didn't turn anyone down recently, which means it must be something bad enough that they couldn't even imagine asking me in a more... standard way." And then Charlie starts freaking out, but it only lasts a minute because he's trying to be all reasonable and practical and because he knows Don will come get him. And he asks why Daniel isn't freaking out, and Daniel's all "oh, government work, weirdest things happen to you, and my team's always managed to get me out."

And obviously the baddies need Daniel's input first -- he has to do the translation so Charlie can do the math parth that will make it go boom -- and they try to be threatening but Daniel's all raised-eyebrow and crossed-arms at them, and he points out to Charlie that they can't try to get Charlie to do the math until Daniel does his part, so obviously it's Charlie's job to think of a way out of there while The Baddies haul Daniel away to a different room and try to be scarier than the Goa'uld, which Daniel is completely unimpressed by. And Charlie's left perusing the cell and trying to put escape plans together and estimating the weight-bearing load of the air ducts and thinking about ways to send a message or leave a clue.

And meanwhile back in L.A. Don's getting nervous about Charlie, and Larry notices he's missed a class, and they start trying to look for him, which gets the attention of the SGC and General O'Neill, who is naturally really worried about Daniel and thinks that Charlie's disappearance would be a ridiculous coincidence, and so Jack flies off to L.A. so that he can smile tightly at Don and make oblique threats about having the investigation taken away if Don doesn't cooperate, and insist on being called "General," and Don gets all crabby about jurisdiction, and sends Terry and David off to investigate and report only to him, and Larry's making tentative comments and trying to keep them from killing each other. But Jack and Don both diss the other's consultants, and then Jack has to be all "okay, I'll admit it, he's a pain but, well, he once was imprisoned by some folks who spoke a language he didn't and inside of a day he'd worked out their culture and some of their language and made friends and his guard ending up defending him -- he's that good, and that's why they want him, and that's why I know we'll get him back, because he don't take no shit." And Don's all "look, I didn't want Charlie to work for me just because he was my brother, right? He can do this shit in his head, and he's always been able to, I'm lucky to have him since he could be consulting with anybody, don't let his record put you off, he'll just keep picking at a problem until he solves it, and in this case that problem is his imprisonment." And Larry ignores the whole thing and just keeps pondering the problem because he wants Charlie back.

And then some other stuff happens, and Daniel and Charlie bond, and they escape/get rescued, and then start going out for coffee, and Daniel finds out that Charlie has a high enough security clearance to hear about the Stargate, so he invites Charlie to the SGC, and Charlie is intrigued but not enough to leave L.A., and I guess it has to end sorta bittersweet long-distance relationship because obviously Charlie's not leaving his house or his work with Don, and Daniel's not leaving the Stargate program, but it would still be fun.