eruthros: Grant Imahara from Mythbusters wearing a Star Trek TOS science uniform and Vulcan ear extensions (Mythbusters - grant in a star trek unifo)
Nominations resulted in about a thousand different works, which should all be listed in this long list poll. The top 250(ish) works from this list will turn into another short list poll in just over a week.

The poll is split into ten questions, each with 99 or 100 works; you can choose up to ten works in each poll question. (Splitting the list into separate questions is not entirely fair - what if all your favorite things end up in the same one? - but there are too many things for a single question, and this isn't exactly a scientific polling system already, so.)

This isn't intended to make an objective list of the "best" works - your top works could mean your favorites, the things that influenced you the most, the things you think are the most interesting, the things you think have the coolest speculative fiction elements, the works you think are best, or however else you'd like to define your top works.

If you'd like to comment explaining why you love a work, or why people might want to check it out, or why you like parts of a work but don't like other parts or find them problematic, or link to people talking about a work, please do! Just don't comment solely to talk about why a work (or its fans) suck.

Some notes on the poll: Sometimes both a book series and a single book from that series are nominated, or both a manga and the anime based on it, or a book and the film based on it, or other sorts of part-whole problems. You can vote for any or all of the formats, depending on which parts you like best - so you could vote for both The Left Hand of Darkness and The Hainish Cycle if they're both in your top ten, or for just The Left Hand of Darkness if the book is in your top ten but the series as a whole doesn't make it (or vice versa). If multiple parts of the same thing make it to the short list, I will probably combine them there - so here it's Akira (movie) and Akira (manga), and it would be Akira (movie, manga) if it made it to the short list.

Works are (generally) alphabetized by their original title, though I'm certain to have mixed this up sometimes. If you see typos or works attributed to the wrong author or anything like that, please comment so I can fix it in the spreadsheet.

You can change your vote as many times as you want for any reason. DW accounts and OpenID accounts from other sites (google, lj, ij, yahoo, etc) can vote in the poll.

The poll will stay open for one week - it'll close next Thursday at noon(ish) EST.

The list is also available as a googledoc of the long list, if you'd prefer to look it over in that format before voting.

seriously epic poll under the cut )

ETA: There are a couple of things that are on the list twice because of typos (they weren't caught by the formula that removed duplicates or by me on my first pass) - so far I see The Left Hand of Darkness and the Legend of the Galactic Heroes tv/ova. I'll add the votes for both lines up manually. *facepalm*

The URL for We Are All Connected by kiki_miserychic is broken but can be fixed by adding .html.

The URL for Data's Dream goes to the fanlore page; here's a streaming link for Data's Dream.

Villains by Necessity is by Eve Forward, not Diana Wynne Jones.

Unfortunately, you can't edit polls, so the errors will stick around through this iteration. Sorry!
eruthros: Delenn building the crystal machine in season 1  of B5, captioned "foreshadowing" (B5 - Delenn incredible foreshadowing)
Okay! So I took the 1400+ nominations and cleaned them up and clarified and pointed some formulas at them to make a 1001 item long list without any duplicates. Here's the prospective long list, if you want to check it out and make sure your nominations are still there, or just look at the list, or check for typos, or tell me to change things, or anything else.

Due to the ~magic of spreadsheets~, this will turn into a poll that looks like these sample entries:

Die 13 1/2 Leben des Käpt'n Blaubär | The 13 1/2 Lives of Captain Bluebear - Walter Moers (book)

Afraid of Americans - bionic (fanvid)

Age of Misrule series - Mark Chadbourn (book series - includes: World's End, Darkest Hour, Always Forever)

ARMS | Project ARMS | プロジェクトアームズ - Minagawa Ryouji and Nanatsuki Kyouichi (manga)

Some questions:

I was planning to just leave the things where a book and a series (e.g. "The Left Hand of Darkness" and "The Hainish Cycle"), or same-universe manga and anime, or whatever, were both nominated. Then I'd see what happens in the poll, and possibly put them back together on the short list. As a bonus, this way I don't have to figure out what's in the same universe/series for everything, just for the shorter list.

I wanted the titles of things to be consistent (not just because I like consistency - mostly for spreadsheet formula purposes), so regardless of how things were nominated, I flipped them around so that the original title or the rōmaji title came first and was the only thing in the first column. But I'm not sure if things should actually be listed that way - it's going to be a long poll with things listed alphabetically, and I don't want people to be unable to find stuff because it's listed under the least-commonly-used title.

Any thoughts on any of this are welcome!
eruthros: Delenn from Babylon 5 with a startled expression and the text "omg!" (Default)
A couple people asked if they could have more nominations for less-represented media in the original nominations post, and I asked the rlist, who said sure, why not, so here's an official(?) notice about it:

You can have +5 additional nominations as long as they're for media that weren't nominated very frequently: music (songs, albums, filk, music videos, opera), fanworks (fanfic, fanvids, fanfilms, fanart), theater (plays, musicals, opera), poetry, games (video, rpg, card, board), short films, art (paintings, fanart, digital art), or any medium that's not currently represented on the spreadsheet at all or that has <20 nominations.

Here's the link to the nominations post again; you can reply to your original comment or post a new comment, whichever you find easier.

/end rlist spam, goes back to watching and listening to the things people have nominated
eruthros: Delenn from Babylon 5 with a startled expression and the text "omg!" (Default)
Nominations for the top one hundred speculative fiction works are still open at the nomination post; they'll be open for another 24 hours(ish).

I've uploaded a preliminary and very messy spreadsheet of the nominations to googledocs, if you want to browse the nominations in a different format - it's much easier to see what's already been nominated and who nominated it in the spreadsheet. And if someone else also nominated your favorite thing, it's easier to find out who and then find out what else they nominated. Basically it's a very large recs set!

Note that the spreadsheet is a first draft, containing just the information people gave me in their comments, so there will certainly be typos, creator names in different formats (surname-given name vs given name-surname), things missing creator names, names or titles missing accents or special characters, things categorized in the wrong media, etc. (Also I accidentally deleted a couple of nominator names and decided not to worry about it, so there are a couple of gaps there.)

I like to play with formulas and excel, so just for fun here are some preliminary stats, all from the version of this spreadsheet as of a couple of hours ago )

I'm kind of tempted to say, everyone can have five more nominations in those less-represented categories (and any other unrepresented categories you think of), just because more music videos and poems and fanvids and things = more fun. (I had a great time watching all the linked youtube videos for the music and vids today while I was spreadsheeting - man, I always forget how long Thriller is.) But I dunno - what do you think?

ETA: Oh what the hell, let's go for it! You can have +5 additional nominations as long as they're for less-represented speculative fiction media: music (songs, albums, filk, music videos), fanworks (fanfic, fanvids, fanfilms, fanart), theater (plays, musicals), poetry, games (video, rpg, card, board), short films, art (paintings, fanart, digital art), or any medium that's not currently represented on the spreadsheet at all. Please add nominations back at the nomination post!
eruthros: Delenn building the crystal machine in season 1  of B5, captioned "foreshadowing" (B5 - Delenn incredible foreshadowing)
So I was being grumpy about that NPR list of the top 100 science fiction and fantasy novels and how boring it was, and then I started wondering what that kind of list would look like if a bunch of fannish people made it instead and if the definition of scifi and fantasy were looser.

And then I decided to do it, more or less on the same model as the NPR list, because why not? At the very least it would mean getting a bunch of interesting recs.

So the general model is:
1) Nomination period: anyone can nominate ten speculative fiction works (in any media).
2) Long list: made up of all the nominations where anyone can vote for their favorites. (Probably divided by media and/or language because the poll might be too big otherwise.) NPR used some NPR folks or an algorithm or something and then a panel of "experts" at this point to narrow things down, but nobody's an expert on all speculative fiction. (And also either the unknown NPR folks or the experts did this.)
3) Short list: a poll of the top two hundred-some things from the long list.
4) Compile the numbers from (3) to make the final list of the top 100.

And this is going to be the nomination post! For nominating things you love. They don't have to be the things that you think of as the absolute objectively best speculative fiction - nominate your favorites or the things you love most or the things you think are best or the things that influenced you the most or however else you define your top ten speculative fiction works.

What counts as speculative fiction? )

The nomination rules )

To nominate your ten things )

Example nomination )

Feel free to signal-boost! More nominations = more interesting polls.

ETA: Here's a browsable spreadsheet listing all of the nominations as of 8/19. Many, many things have been nominated!

ETA2: Oh what the hell, some people have asked for it and why not! You can have +5 additional nominations as long as they're for less-represented speculative fiction media: music (songs, albums, filk, music videos), fanworks (fanfic, fanvids, fanfilms, fanart), theater (plays, musicals), poetry, games (video, rpg, card, board), short films, art (paintings, fanart, digital art), or any medium that's not currently represented on the spreadsheet at all.

ETA3: Nominations are now closed.
eruthros: Star Trek: TOS, Kirk and Spock gazing soulfully into each other's eyes (ST:TOS - Spock and Kirk LOVE each other)
1. Okay you guys, I need HELP. Where is the Avatar: tLA fanfic? I have checked out the AO3, and the old yuletide archive, and some of the multifandom reccers I know, but I have found very little. There must be some post-series worldbuilding fic, right? Surely?

Unfortunately, all my routes to fanfic have taken me to cut for spoilers for the series )

2. I watched the Man from UNCLE episode that guest stars Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner the other day, and let me just say: n'awwww. It's a first season episode (The Project Strigas Affair), so it predates Star Trek and is in black and white and is totally about pulling a giant con and they barely encounter each other in the course of the episode but it still made me go "awww." (Especially because I am pro giant cons and Ilya undercover in awesome moustaches.) Anyway, if you're in a nostalgic mood (and are willing to put up with some really heavy-handed eastern European stereotypes) it's pretty amusing. William Shatner plays the innocent young chemical engineer turned exterminator! Leonard Nimoy smokes cigarettes with a holder and does expansive arm gestures!

3. I'm kind of weirded out by the fact that basically all the tv I'm looking forward to is on a summer-airing schedule --Mad Men, White Collar, Leverage, Psych as long as someone prescreens the episodes for embarrassment squick -- and that none of it includes spaceships. I mean, there are three whole cop/con comedy-dramas on that list, geez. Could I get just a little spaceship?

Anyway, if you've been watching a neat speculative fiction tv show, or are looking forward to a new one, I'd love a rec. Especially if it includes women and characters of color and queer people who also have cool powers/are on the spaceship/do neat things/aren't the backup, the love interest, or the funny neighbor. I'm told that I have to start watching Fringe, among other things.


Feb. 28th, 2005 02:48 pm
eruthros: llamas! (llamas)
Link for the day: How to Destroy the Earth. A fabulous compilation of ways to destroy the earth (with addenda including "fallback methods" and "ways not to destroy the earth") from Sam Hughes:
This is not a guide for wusses whose aim is merely to wipe out humanity. I can in no way guarantee the complete extinction of the human race via any of these methods, real or imaginary. Humanity is wily and resourceful, and many of the methods outlined below will take many years to even become available, let alone implement, by which time mankind may well have spread to other planets; indeed, other star systems. If total human genocide is your ultimate goal, you are reading the wrong document. There are far more efficient ways of doing this, many which are available and feasible RIGHT NOW. Nor is this a guide for those wanting to annihilate everything from single-celled life upwards, render Earth uninhabitable or simply conquer it. These are trivial goals in comparison.

This is a guide for those who do not want the Earth to be there anymore.
It features such fabulous examples as "destroyed by a long-duration gamma ray burst" and "eaten by von Neumann machines." With descriptions of what you would need, the method, the Earth's final resting place, and so on. Hilarious. Whee!


Jan. 15th, 2005 09:43 pm
eruthros: Pirates of the Caribbean: a boat in harbor is a safe boat / but that's not what boats are for (PotC - boat in harbor)
One of my Childhood Bookstores is The Other Change of Hobbit, a Berkeley institution since the week Star Wars opened in 1977. It's a tiny, tiny little store, filled with sf/f, and anime, and mysteries, and quite possibly the only place in the East Bay where you can find E.E. "Doc" Smith and Burroughs and all those other Historical Folks. Most of my History of SF/F reading comes from OCoH.

And one of the only places in the Bay Area where you can walk in and say "okay, look, I read this short story when I was a kid, in a collection designed for kids with a pink elephant on the cover, and it was about this evil alien that's telepathic and disappeared when people didn't believe in it." And they'll say ... well, what they'll actually say is "talk to Dave at the back counter," but Dave will say "That's a Niven story, first printed in '73, currently collected in Limits, which we have used." Or whatever.

Anyway, OCoH (like many indie bookstores) has a Store Cat. Her name is Shagrat, after the orc who commands Cirith Ungol and captures Frodo at the end of book 4. She's gray and fuzzy and not at all like an orc; she curls up on the Sandman graphic novels or in the front window and is completely pettable. And she's been through a lot -- she's survived cancer and massive surgery after a hit-and-run and all sorts of things. But she just got diagnosed with inoperable malignant carcinoma. And so they took her back "home," to the store, and put to sleep. *sniffles* Goodbye, Shagrat.
eruthros: Delenn from Babylon 5 with a startled expression and the text "omg!" (Default)
From [ profile] sineala, who informs us that it is from Locus Magazine's top 100 list.

Read more... )
eruthros: Delenn from Babylon 5 with a startled expression and the text "omg!" (Default)
So this afternoon I was sitting on a bus, heading off campus, and I saw this guy get on wearing a plastic lei with a condom taped to it and a little tag on the back. "Huh," I thought, "I wonder what that's all about. Some event, maybe?" but I couldn't see the tag.

Then, later, he sat down in front of me, and it turns out the tag said "You have just been safely lei'd by the Condom Co-op."

Also, I was putting books away a while ago and glanced at my copy of A Wizard of Earthsea, by Ursula K. Le Guin. One blurb, from the London Sunday Times, contained this fabulous phrase:

Among the looms of fantasy fiction, Ursula Le Guin weaves on where J.R.R. Tolkien cast off. It's a large claim; heresy perhaps to legions of Hobbit fanciers.

So, of course, y'all know the first thing I thought of when I read that. Because "pervy hobbit fanciers" is just such a great phrase.

I don't know, though, that I would say that Le Guin and Tolkien have anything in common beyond writing in nominally fantasy worlds on occasion. Le Guin rocks my world with her speculative fiction, and while I really like Tolkien's Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit, they're not exactly what I would call speculative.

I think Ursula K. Le Guin writes beautifully, and does her "thought-experiments" with all the ability of someone who really thinks about people, and what makes people (she is, after all, the daughter of one of the foremost anthropologists of the early 20th century). Her words:

I am not predicting, or prescribing. I am describing. I am describing certain aspects of psychological reality in the novelist's way, which is by inventing elaborately circumstantial lies. ... The truth is a matter of the imagination.

Clearly, the intent, execution, and style is entirely different.


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