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So I was being grumpy about that NPR list of the top 100 science fiction and fantasy novels and how boring it was, and then I started wondering what that kind of list would look like if a bunch of fannish people made it instead and if the definition of scifi and fantasy were looser.
And then I decided to do it, more or less on the same model as the NPR list, because why not? At the very least it would mean getting a bunch of interesting recs.
So the general model is:
1) Nomination period: anyone can nominate ten speculative fiction works (in any media).
2) Long list: made up of all the nominations where anyone can vote for their favorites. (Probably divided by media and/or language because the poll might be too big otherwise.) NPR used some NPR folks or an algorithm or something and then a panel of "experts" at this point to narrow things down, but nobody's an expert on all speculative fiction. (And also either the unknown NPR folks or the experts did this.)
3) Short list: a poll of the top two hundred-some things from the long list.
4) Compile the numbers from (3) to make the final list of the top 100.
And this is going to be the nomination post! For nominating things you love. They don't have to be the things that you think of as the absolute objectively best speculative fiction - nominate your favorites or the things you love most or the things you think are best or the things that influenced you the most or however else you define your top ten speculative fiction works.
What counts as speculative fiction?
Anything called "scifi" or "fantasy" or "horror" or "paranormal" or "supernatural" or "magical realism." Anything with vampires or werewolves or zombies or bodyswap or time travel or space travel or aliens or other planets or apocalypses or talking animals or magic swords or angels or demons or fairies or faeries or mystical creatures or other dimensions or futuristic tech or superpowers or wizards or witches or ghosts or blasters or talking trees or sapient rocks or teleportation or elves or A.I. or giant robots or alternate history or about a million other speculative fiction tropes. If you think it's speculative fiction, it's speculative fiction, regardless of what the original creators call it or where it's usually shelved. Young adult and children's speculative fiction counts, too.
The nomination rules:
You can nominate up to ten speculative fiction things from any media. So you could nominate a live action tv show, cartoon, anime, book, book series, short story, album, song, comic series, graphic novel, manga/manhwa/manhua, movie, fanfic, fanart, fanvid, amv, music video, video game, rpg, webcomic, picture, episode of a tv show, etc.
The things you nominate don't have to be English-language sources - any language is okay.
The things you nominate can be things that were on the NPR list - there were many great books on that list!
You can comment using a dreamwidth account, using openID, or anonymously, but if you comment anonymously please include a name/username/pseudonym somewhere in your comment.
Everything anyone nominates will end up on the long list, regardless of how many times it's nominated, so you don't have to worry about making sure enough people nominate it. (But since people can change their nominations later, if you really really want to see it on the poll, you might want to nominate it yourself.)
To nominate your ten things:
Comment here telling me what you'd like to nominate, and what medium it is so I don't have to google it. If you'd like, you can comment on your nominations and recommend them to passerby, or link to them if they're available anywhere online. (And you can comment to other people's nominations if you want to find out more/rejoice at finding someone else who also loves X.)
If you change your mind, reply to your own comment with your updated list.
Nominations will be open for a week, conveniently closing after both my current freelance project and my femslash 11 story are due.
Example nomination:
Book Series:
1. Terry Pratchett - Discworld series
Music:
2. Janelle Monae - Metropolis/The ArchAndroid
TV show:
3. Avatar: The Last Airbender
4. Babylon 5
5. Code Geass
Book:
6. Rosemary Kirstein - The Outskirter's Secret
Fanfic:
7. Your Cowboy Days Are Over by M.
Feel free to signal-boost! More nominations = more interesting polls.
ETA: Here's a browsable spreadsheet listing all of the nominations as of 8/19. Many, many things have been nominated!
ETA2: Oh what the hell, some people have asked for it and why not! You can have +5 additional nominations as long as they're for less-represented speculative fiction media: music (songs, albums, filk, music videos), fanworks (fanfic, fanvids, fanfilms, fanart), theater (plays, musicals), poetry, games (video, rpg, card, board), short films, art (paintings, fanart, digital art), or any medium that's not currently represented on the spreadsheet at all.
ETA3: Nominations are now closed.
And then I decided to do it, more or less on the same model as the NPR list, because why not? At the very least it would mean getting a bunch of interesting recs.
So the general model is:
1) Nomination period: anyone can nominate ten speculative fiction works (in any media).
2) Long list: made up of all the nominations where anyone can vote for their favorites. (Probably divided by media and/or language because the poll might be too big otherwise.) NPR used some NPR folks or an algorithm or something and then a panel of "experts" at this point to narrow things down, but nobody's an expert on all speculative fiction. (And also either the unknown NPR folks or the experts did this.)
3) Short list: a poll of the top two hundred-some things from the long list.
4) Compile the numbers from (3) to make the final list of the top 100.
And this is going to be the nomination post! For nominating things you love. They don't have to be the things that you think of as the absolute objectively best speculative fiction - nominate your favorites or the things you love most or the things you think are best or the things that influenced you the most or however else you define your top ten speculative fiction works.
What counts as speculative fiction?
Anything called "scifi" or "fantasy" or "horror" or "paranormal" or "supernatural" or "magical realism." Anything with vampires or werewolves or zombies or bodyswap or time travel or space travel or aliens or other planets or apocalypses or talking animals or magic swords or angels or demons or fairies or faeries or mystical creatures or other dimensions or futuristic tech or superpowers or wizards or witches or ghosts or blasters or talking trees or sapient rocks or teleportation or elves or A.I. or giant robots or alternate history or about a million other speculative fiction tropes. If you think it's speculative fiction, it's speculative fiction, regardless of what the original creators call it or where it's usually shelved. Young adult and children's speculative fiction counts, too.
The nomination rules:
You can nominate up to ten speculative fiction things from any media. So you could nominate a live action tv show, cartoon, anime, book, book series, short story, album, song, comic series, graphic novel, manga/manhwa/manhua, movie, fanfic, fanart, fanvid, amv, music video, video game, rpg, webcomic, picture, episode of a tv show, etc.
The things you nominate don't have to be English-language sources - any language is okay.
The things you nominate can be things that were on the NPR list - there were many great books on that list!
You can comment using a dreamwidth account, using openID, or anonymously, but if you comment anonymously please include a name/username/pseudonym somewhere in your comment.
Everything anyone nominates will end up on the long list, regardless of how many times it's nominated, so you don't have to worry about making sure enough people nominate it. (But since people can change their nominations later, if you really really want to see it on the poll, you might want to nominate it yourself.)
To nominate your ten things:
Comment here telling me what you'd like to nominate, and what medium it is so I don't have to google it. If you'd like, you can comment on your nominations and recommend them to passerby, or link to them if they're available anywhere online. (And you can comment to other people's nominations if you want to find out more/rejoice at finding someone else who also loves X.)
If you change your mind, reply to your own comment with your updated list.
Nominations will be open for a week, conveniently closing after both my current freelance project and my femslash 11 story are due.
Example nomination:
Book Series:
1. Terry Pratchett - Discworld series
Music:
2. Janelle Monae - Metropolis/The ArchAndroid
TV show:
3. Avatar: The Last Airbender
4. Babylon 5
5. Code Geass
Book:
6. Rosemary Kirstein - The Outskirter's Secret
Fanfic:
7. Your Cowboy Days Are Over by M.
Feel free to signal-boost! More nominations = more interesting polls.
ETA: Here's a browsable spreadsheet listing all of the nominations as of 8/19. Many, many things have been nominated!
ETA2: Oh what the hell, some people have asked for it and why not! You can have +5 additional nominations as long as they're for less-represented speculative fiction media: music (songs, albums, filk, music videos), fanworks (fanfic, fanvids, fanfilms, fanart), theater (plays, musicals), poetry, games (video, rpg, card, board), short films, art (paintings, fanart, digital art), or any medium that's not currently represented on the spreadsheet at all.
ETA3: Nominations are now closed.
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Date: 2011-08-13 02:48 pm (UTC)1. Bruce Coville - My Teacher is an Alien series
If we're talking influence, this was pretty much the single most formative work for my ideas about what science fiction is and does.
I'm not sure where "the short fiction of Ursula K. LeGuin" would go--it's not actually a series, but it's more than a single book. Should I put it under series, or try a little harder to narrow it down to one of her collections? (Which I could probably do with some effort... *g*)
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Date: 2011-08-13 03:22 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-08-13 02:49 pm (UTC)Book:
1. Astrid Lindgren - The Brothers Lionheart
2. Peter Dickinson - The Blue Hawk
Book series:
3. Guy Gavriel Kay - The Fionavar Tapestry
4. Geraldine Harris - Seven Citadels series
5. Suzanne Cooper - The Dark Is Rising series
TV show:
6. V (1983)
7. Beauty and the Beast (1987, the live-action series with Linda Hamilton and Ron Perlman)
9. Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
10. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
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Date: 2011-08-14 02:13 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-08-13 02:56 pm (UTC)Books:
1. Jane Yolen's Sister Light, Sister Dark
2. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
3. The Parable of the Sower, by Octavia Butler
4. Robin McKinley's Sunshine
5. Neil Stephenson's Anathem
6. Le Guin's The Dispossessed
Series:
7. Madeleine L'Engle's Kairos books (A Wrinkle in Time and its sequels)
8. Jacqueline Carey, Kushiel's Legacy
9. Ursula Leguin's Earthsea series
10. Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars books
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Date: 2011-08-13 03:48 pm (UTC)Not at all! Some of the books on the list are great books.
Also, I loved Jane Yolen's Sister Light, Sister Dark.
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Date: 2011-08-13 03:28 pm (UTC)The Heart of Everything by Within Temptation - Symphonic metal concept album that tells a tragic love story with rather distinct sf/fantasy themes.
Book:
The Steel Remains by Richard Morgan - Spindles, folds, and mutilates a good number of bog standard sf/f tropes, quite probably set in the same continuity as Morgan's Altered Carbon series.
Book Series:
The Altered Carbon series by Richard Morgan - Far-future transhumanist dystopian sf/f at its finest. Also nastiest.
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Date: 2011-08-13 03:47 pm (UTC)Fanfiction:
1) I Am Your Image Dressed As The World, by
2) Election Days by
Fanvid:
3) Data's Dream by Gayle F and Morgandawn
Comics:
4) X-Men Franchise by Stan Lee and oh so many other people
Books:
5) Green Grass, Running Water, by Thomas King
6) Skin Folk, by Nalo Hopkinson (collection of short stories)
7) The Giver, by Lois Lowry
8) Invisible Cities, by Italo Calvino
9) Vurt, by Jeff Noon
10) Her Smoke Rose Up Forever, by James Tiptree Jr aka Alice Sheldon (collection of short stories)
ARGH seriously this is impossible. I'm going to stop fiddling now before I get too depressed. I didn't even nominate Sirens of Titan! And I love it more than many things in the world! argh.
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Date: 2011-08-13 04:38 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-08-13 03:54 pm (UTC)... All I do know that A:TLA is definitely on my list.
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Date: 2011-08-13 05:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-08-13 04:03 pm (UTC)Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Movie:
Pitch Black
Books:
The Liveship Traders series by Robin Hobb
The Parable series by Octavia Butler
China Mountain Zhang by Maureen McHugh
The Dispossessed by Ursula K LeGuin
Fanfic:
Freedom's Just Another Word for Nothing Left To Lose by synecdochic
Short Stories:
The Women Men Don't See, (it's really hard to choose just one--really I'd nominate her whole body of work), James Tiptree Jr
The Tell-Tale Heart, Edgar Allen Poe
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Date: 2011-08-13 04:43 pm (UTC)Books:
1) The Twins series of Dragonlance Legends by Margaret Weis and Tracey Hickman: Time of the Twins, War of the Twins, Test of the Twins.
2) Oryx and Crake by Margaret Atwood
3) On the Beach by Nevil Shute
4) Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro
5) House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski
6) Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace
7) Peer Gynt by Henrik Ibsen
8) This Is The Way The World Ends by James Morrow
Films:
9) Last Night
10) After Life, Japanese (original) title Wandafuru raifu
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Date: 2011-08-13 07:18 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-08-13 04:50 pm (UTC)Also Stand on Zanzibar and The Sheep Look Up by John Brunner (for greater expediency these can be grouped with Shockwave Rider as the Innis Mode novels, but I personally didn't like Shockwave Rider that much), novels exploring ideas and worlds through mosaic story-telling techniques incorporating excerpts from other texts, ad copy, jokes, scraps of conversation, and so on with more conventional narrative elements and using large casts of variously situated characters to build an immersive encounter with a realistically effed-up world.
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Date: 2011-08-14 12:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-08-13 04:57 pm (UTC)1. Susan Cooper - Dark Is Rising Sequence
2. Diane Duane - Young Wizards
3. Neil Gaiman - Sandman
4. Diana Wynnne Jones - her whole body of work, honestly, because I can't settle on one book/series that I love best
5. Terry Pratchett - Discworld
6. JRR Tolkien - Lord of the Rings
TV
7. Avatar: the Last Airbender
8. Babylon 5
9. Buffy the Vampire Slayer
10. Doctor Who
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Date: 2011-08-13 11:01 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-08-13 05:23 pm (UTC)Oz series by L. Frank Baum
--First fantasy with fully realized world building that I read. The series has predominately female heroic characters, not to mention MtF is canon. <3 The series contains serious fail (it's a century old) and I wouldn't offer it to a youngster unless following up with critical commentary.
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Date: 2011-08-13 05:31 pm (UTC)I haven't looked at the NPR list so I may be repeating some of their choices, but I'm going to try not to duplicate books that have already been nominated here:
BOOKS
1. Little, Big by John Crowley. Book of my heart.
2. The Bloody Chamber by Angela Carter (I could list pretty much everything by Carter - I adore her)
3. Midnight's Children by Salman Rushdie
4. The Book of the New Sun series by Gene Wolfe
5. The Jerusalem Quartet by Edward Whittemore, but particularly the first two books, Sinai Tapestry and Jerusalem Poker
6. The Last Unicorn by Peter S. Beagle
7. Galatea 2.2 by Richard Powers
8. Under the Sign of the Hourglass by Bruno Schulz
Le Guin, McKillip, Kushner, Butler, Tolkien, Delany and most of my other stalwarts have already been mentioned. Obviously a lot of these aren't marketed as speculative fiction, but I don't see why I should be limited by publisher's categories.
FIC
9. Black Helicopters at Dawn series by
This is such a fabulous idea. I may be back with a film rec, but I have to dash to work!
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Date: 2011-08-13 06:01 pm (UTC)Pamela Dean's Tam Lin
Nalo Hopkinson's Midnight Robber
Catherynne M Valente's The Girl Who Circumnavigated Fairyland in a Ship of Her Own Making
L.J. Smith's Forbidden Game trilogy
Tamora Pierce's The Magic Circle/The Circle Opens
Webcomics:
Gunnerkrigg Court
Anime/Manga:
Mai-Hime/My-HiME (anime)
Miyazaki Hayao's Spirited Away/Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi
Takeuchi Naoko's Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon/Bishōjo Senshi Sailor Moon
Live-action TV:
Kamen Rider Den-O/Kamen Raidā Den'ō/Masked Rider Den-O
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Date: 2011-08-13 06:15 pm (UTC)1. Tamora Pierce - Circle of Magic
2. Sharon Lee and Steve Miller - Liaden series (This is like, my gold standard of space opera/scifi romance. They're self-indulgent and kind of OTT and I love them.)
3. Jo Graham - Numinous World series
4. Megan Whalen Turner - Queen's Thief/Attolia series.
Books:
5. Marcus Zusak - The Book Thief (I'm sticking this under speculative fiction since Death is the narrator.)
6. Adam Rex - The True Meaning of Smekday
7. Christopher Moore - Lamb, the Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal (This is exactly as hilarious as the title and author suggest, while also managing to be serious and heartbreaking and surprisingly respectful.)
8. Guy Gavriel Kay - The Lions of Al-Rassan
Movies:
9. Children of Men
10. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
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Date: 2011-08-13 06:21 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-08-13 06:16 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-08-13 11:03 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-08-13 06:21 pm (UTC)1. The Sarantine Mosaic duology by Guy Gavriel Kay
2. The Lions of Al-Rassan by Guy Gavriel Kay
3. Spindle's End by Robin McKinley
4. The Enchanted Forest Chronicles series by Patricia C. Wrede
5. The Carpet Makers (Die Haarteppichknüpfer) by Andreas Eschbach
6. Ombria in Shadow by Patricia McKillip
7. Song for the Basilisk by Patricia McKillip
8. American Gods by Neil Gaiman
9. King of Shadows by Susan Cooper
And a random one:
The Secret Garden, the Broadway musical version
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Date: 2011-08-13 06:27 pm (UTC)Books and their authors:
1) Jorge Luis Borges, Ficciones and The Aleph
2) C.J. Cherrh, The Chanur Series
3) Avram Davidson, The Adventures of Doctor Esterhazy
4) Barbara Hambly, including the Darwath novels and Bride of the Rat God
5) R.A. MacAvoy, especially the Rafael and Lens of the World trilogies
6) Sheri S. Tepper, especially Raising the Stones and Six Moon Dance
7) Martha Wells, Wheel of the Infinite
Comics:
8) Astro City
9) Hellboy
Television:
10) The Avengers (The original British TV series)
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Date: 2011-08-13 11:03 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-08-13 06:50 pm (UTC)Books
Western Comics
Anime
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Date: 2011-08-13 10:51 pm (UTC)(...man, I really need to read the fourth book.)
*returns to lurking*
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Date: 2011-08-13 07:46 pm (UTC)1. Nahoko Uehashi - Moribito series
2. Megan Whalen Turner - Queen's Thief series
3. Tamora Pierce - Circle of Magic series
Books:
4. Miyuki Miyabe - Brave Story
Video game series:
5. Tales of series
6. Final Fantasy series
7. Suikoden series (the above three were all absolutely critical to my development and how I thought about fantasy and worldbuilding)
8. Fatal Frame series
Animated series:
9. Princess Tutu (I didn't see if this one had been nominated yet)
Manga:
10. Yuki Urushibara - Mushishi
I love that even on a quick skim, a lot of the things I'd nominate have already been nominated ♥ That's a really great feeling.
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Date: 2011-08-13 07:50 pm (UTC)BOOK SERIES (3):
CJ Chereth's Foreigner sequences - diplomacy, alien cultures, lawyer-assassins, etc.
Ursula K. LeGuin's Hanish Cycle - human diplomacy, writ in many, many ways
Teri Windling et al, Bordertown - Urban fantasy, conceived around the fall of the Berlin wall and updated to the now just recently.
BOOKS (1)
Moxieland - Lauren Buekes - information age
ANIMATION (1)
X'amd: Lost Memories (Studio Bones, Japan) : metamorphosis and change, resistance and idealism and justification in a time of war. Available in its entirety on Hulu if you are a USian, fyi.
TELEVISION (1)
Fringe (US) - From that crazy bastard who brought you the X Files! Mad science and a global economy, post 9/11 USA.
WEBCOMICS (1)
Gunnerkrigg Court - Tom Siddel - http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/ - a delightful mishmash of a coming of age story, a very old war between science and technology, set in a British-style boarding school crossed with a city state.
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Date: 2011-08-13 08:28 pm (UTC)Since so many of my favourites have already been nominated (such as LeGuin's Always Coming Home, Kay's Fionvar Tapestry, Butler's Parable of the Sower and Parable of the Talents, Walton's Small Change trilogy, King's Green Grass, Running Water, Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings and McHugh's China Mountain Zhang), this leaves me free to nominate even more of my favourites for consideration.
Books:
Elisabeth Vonarburg, The Maerlande Chronicles (Also published as In the mother's Land
Gael Baudino, Gossamer Axe
Gwyneth Jones, Life
Eleanor Arnason, Ring of Swords
Series:
Diane Duane, Middle Kingdom trilogy, aka The Tale of the Five (The Door in Fire, The Door into Shadow, The Door into Sunset)
Karen Traviss, Wess'har Wars series (Crossing the Line, city of Pearl, The World Before, Matriarch, Ally, Judge)
Lyda Morehouse, LINK Angel series (Archangel Protocol, Fallen Host, Messiah Node, Apocalypse Array)
R. A. MacAvoy, Black Dragon series (Tea with the black Dragon, Twisting the Rope
L. Timmel Duchamp, Marq’ssan Cycle (Alyanya to Alyanya, Renegade, Tsunami, Blood in the Fruit, Stretto
Glenda Larke, The Isles of Glory trilogy (The Aware, Gilfeather, The Tainted)
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Date: 2011-08-14 05:54 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-08-13 08:38 pm (UTC)Book:
1. Robert Munsch - Purple Green and Yellow. To this day I still have an irrational fear of "erasing" markers.
2. Phoebe Gilman - The Balloon Tree
3. Alison Baird - The Hidden World
Book Series:
4. O.R. Melling - The Chronicles of Faerie
TV Show:
5. Batman: The Animated Series/ The New Batman Adventures
6. Xena: Warrior Princess
7. Beast Wars/ Beast Machines
8. The Vision of Escaflowne
9. Gundam Wing
10. Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
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Date: 2011-08-13 09:52 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-08-13 08:44 pm (UTC)1. Isaac Asimov - I, Robot
2. Samuel R. Delany - Stars in My Pocket Like Grains of Sand
3. Karen Healey - Guardian of the Dead
4. Robert Heinlein - The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress
5. Ursula K. Le Guin - Buffalo Gals and Other Animal Presences
6. Mark Merlis - An Arrow's Flight
Book series:
7. Naomi Novik - Temeraire series
Manga:
8. Hotta Yumi - Hikaru no Go
9. Minekura Kazuya - Wild Adapter
Short story:
10. Connie Willis - "The Soul Selects her own Society: Invasion and Repulsion: A Chronological Reinterpretation of Two of Emily Dickinson's Poems: A Wellsian Perspective"
I'd love to have included some fanvid and fanfic nominations, but if I went down that rabbit hole, I'd never come out again, so I think I'll just stick to published literature.
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Date: 2011-08-13 08:46 pm (UTC)Book Series:
Tamora Pierce's Tortall books (especially the Protector of the Small quartet)
Simon R. Green's Hawk and Fisher books (two short story collections + two novels)
Tanya Huff's Keeper Chronicles
David Weber's War God's Own series
Mercedes Lackey's Bedlam's Bard series
Books:
Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash
Cory Doctorow's Little Brother
China Mieville's Un Lun Dun
Western Comics:
Warren Ellis' The Authority
Bill Willingham's Fables
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Date: 2011-08-13 10:40 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-08-13 09:01 pm (UTC)Books and book series:
1. Lillith's Brood by Octavia Butler
2. Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons
3. Foundation books by Isaac Asimov
4. Habitation of the Blessed: A Dirge for Prester John by Catherynne Valente
5. The Orphan's Tales: In the Night Garden by Catherynne Valente
6. The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins
7. Animorphs by K.A. Applegate
8. The Sparrow by Mary Doria Russell
9. Seed to Harvest series by Octavia Butler
TV:
10. Firefly