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eruthrosWe have this.
Of course! Vaccinating for an STD that kills 3,500 American women a year is basically telling girls to go out and have sex before marriage! Why didn't I think of that? (Also, does this mean that vaccinating for rabies encourages people to go out and be bitten by dogs?)
I just. I mean, I understand the issues parents can have with the concept of sex and their children. But ... cervical cancer. (And anyway you could get HPV from your husband, too. I mean, 80% of adults have been infected with HPV at at some point in their lives.)
Le sigh. It's a sad thing when I see people agitating for mandatory vaccines and think "oh, well, I guess that's to prevent parents from endangering their children by refusing to get it." Yeeesh.
Of course! Vaccinating for an STD that kills 3,500 American women a year is basically telling girls to go out and have sex before marriage! Why didn't I think of that? (Also, does this mean that vaccinating for rabies encourages people to go out and be bitten by dogs?)
I just. I mean, I understand the issues parents can have with the concept of sex and their children. But ... cervical cancer. (And anyway you could get HPV from your husband, too. I mean, 80% of adults have been infected with HPV at at some point in their lives.)
Le sigh. It's a sad thing when I see people agitating for mandatory vaccines and think "oh, well, I guess that's to prevent parents from endangering their children by refusing to get it." Yeeesh.
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Date: 2005-11-01 05:11 pm (UTC)But seriously, screw the rich Western countries with their moral debates anyway. If you have HPV in a Western country and it progresses to cervical cancer, you have a) a lot of safeguards before it reaches that point and b) a lot of treatment options. What we need to do is get this vaccine out to second and third world countries where cervical cancer is the number one killer of women.
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Date: 2005-11-01 09:46 pm (UTC)I wasn't going to bring up rape and incest, because I have this notion that the fundamentalist Christian family groups don't really think of them as things that happen to Christian girls who are raised well. (Which, if true, is a whole 'nother example of what's wrong there.) It's still a good point, though, for the pro-vaccine side; people don't just get HPV through consensual sex.
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Date: 2005-11-01 09:27 pm (UTC)Smallpox? Punishment from god. Why do you think it's occurence was higher in the Native American (i.e. Heathen!) population.
And of course you can't get it from husbands. They are all celibate until marriage.
And as we know, providing protection from STDs GUARANTEES (Note: not an actual guarantee) sexual promiscuity. Just look at me! Condoms everywhere, and I was philandering about with literally (read: made up) thousands of women.
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Date: 2005-11-01 09:33 pm (UTC)This comment brought to you by the sniggering provoked by your comment, which is so fabulous in total that I won't even try to break it about to say good things about.
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Date: 2005-11-01 09:40 pm (UTC)See? If we get rid of more forms of HPV, we'll save babies too!
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Date: 2005-11-03 04:32 am (UTC)To the guy who said: 'We can provide a better, healthier alternative than the vaccine, and that is to teach abstinence', I have one very long and loud vulgar phrase to say to you, adding a resounding GOOD! YOUR ABSTINENCE PROGRAM SUCKS! to his comment of ''This is going to sabotage our abstinence message'.
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Date: 2005-11-07 05:11 pm (UTC)Oy.