eruthros: Delenn building the crystal machine in season 1  of B5, captioned "foreshadowing" (B5 - Delenn incredible foreshadowing)
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So I was being grumpy about that NPR list of the top 100 science fiction and fantasy novels and how boring it was, and then I started wondering what that kind of list would look like if a bunch of fannish people made it instead and if the definition of scifi and fantasy were looser.

And then I decided to do it, more or less on the same model as the NPR list, because why not? At the very least it would mean getting a bunch of interesting recs.

So the general model is:
1) Nomination period: anyone can nominate ten speculative fiction works (in any media).
2) Long list: made up of all the nominations where anyone can vote for their favorites. (Probably divided by media and/or language because the poll might be too big otherwise.) NPR used some NPR folks or an algorithm or something and then a panel of "experts" at this point to narrow things down, but nobody's an expert on all speculative fiction. (And also either the unknown NPR folks or the experts did this.)
3) Short list: a poll of the top two hundred-some things from the long list.
4) Compile the numbers from (3) to make the final list of the top 100.

And this is going to be the nomination post! For nominating things you love. They don't have to be the things that you think of as the absolute objectively best speculative fiction - nominate your favorites or the things you love most or the things you think are best or the things that influenced you the most or however else you define your top ten speculative fiction works.

What counts as speculative fiction?
Anything called "scifi" or "fantasy" or "horror" or "paranormal" or "supernatural" or "magical realism." Anything with vampires or werewolves or zombies or bodyswap or time travel or space travel or aliens or other planets or apocalypses or talking animals or magic swords or angels or demons or fairies or faeries or mystical creatures or other dimensions or futuristic tech or superpowers or wizards or witches or ghosts or blasters or talking trees or sapient rocks or teleportation or elves or A.I. or giant robots or alternate history or about a million other speculative fiction tropes. If you think it's speculative fiction, it's speculative fiction, regardless of what the original creators call it or where it's usually shelved. Young adult and children's speculative fiction counts, too.

The nomination rules:
You can nominate up to ten speculative fiction things from any media. So you could nominate a live action tv show, cartoon, anime, book, book series, short story, album, song, comic series, graphic novel, manga/manhwa/manhua, movie, fanfic, fanart, fanvid, amv, music video, video game, rpg, webcomic, picture, episode of a tv show, etc.

The things you nominate don't have to be English-language sources - any language is okay.

The things you nominate can be things that were on the NPR list - there were many great books on that list!

You can comment using a dreamwidth account, using openID, or anonymously, but if you comment anonymously please include a name/username/pseudonym somewhere in your comment.

Everything anyone nominates will end up on the long list, regardless of how many times it's nominated, so you don't have to worry about making sure enough people nominate it. (But since people can change their nominations later, if you really really want to see it on the poll, you might want to nominate it yourself.)

To nominate your ten things:
Comment here telling me what you'd like to nominate, and what medium it is so I don't have to google it. If you'd like, you can comment on your nominations and recommend them to passerby, or link to them if they're available anywhere online. (And you can comment to other people's nominations if you want to find out more/rejoice at finding someone else who also loves X.)

If you change your mind, reply to your own comment with your updated list.

Nominations will be open for a week, conveniently closing after both my current freelance project and my femslash 11 story are due.

Example nomination:
Book Series:
1. Terry Pratchett - Discworld series

Music:
2. Janelle Monae - Metropolis/The ArchAndroid

TV show:
3. Avatar: The Last Airbender
4. Babylon 5
5. Code Geass

Book:
6. Rosemary Kirstein - The Outskirter's Secret

Fanfic:
7. Your Cowboy Days Are Over by M.

Feel free to signal-boost! More nominations = more interesting polls.

ETA: Here's a browsable spreadsheet listing all of the nominations as of 8/19. Many, many things have been nominated!

ETA2: Oh what the hell, some people have asked for it and why not! You can have +5 additional nominations as long as they're for less-represented speculative fiction media: music (songs, albums, filk, music videos), fanworks (fanfic, fanvids, fanfilms, fanart), theater (plays, musicals), poetry, games (video, rpg, card, board), short films, art (paintings, fanart, digital art), or any medium that's not currently represented on the spreadsheet at all.

ETA3: Nominations are now closed.

Date: 2011-08-20 04:59 pm (UTC)
kiki_eng: two bats investigating plants against the night sky (Default)
From: [personal profile] kiki_eng
Comics:
1.) Calvin and Hobbes by Bill Watterson

Films:
2.) My Neighbor Totoro
3.) Les Aventures extraordinaires d'Adèle Blanc-Sec (The Extraordinary Adventures of Adèle Blanc-Sec)
(Because it is set in 1911, a pterodactyl hatches within the first five minutes, it is something like what would happen if you tried to cross Amélie with Indiana Jones and The Mummy films, it has an awesome female main character, it is a glorious romp, and I am kind of in love with it.)
4.) Dr. Seuss' How the Grinch Stole Christmas! (1966 - TV)
5.) Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Web Mini-series:
6) Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog

Music:
7.) Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars (album) by David Bowie

Books:
8.) The Metamorphosis by Franz Kafka (novella)
9.) The Enchanted Forest Chronicles by Patricia C. Wrede (series)

TV show:
10.) Farscape

Date: 2011-08-20 05:47 pm (UTC)
calvinahobbes: Calvin holding a cardboard tv-shape up in front of himself (Default)
From: [personal profile] calvinahobbes
I had so many duh! moments reading your list. Dr Horrible! Ziggy Stardust! Kafka! Of course!

And you nominated Calvin and Hobes :D (Which I didn't even, because I'm a bad fan.)

Did you see eruthros has opened the post up for five additional nominations in less represented media? *nudges*

Date: 2011-08-20 07:51 pm (UTC)
kiki_eng: two bats investigating plants against the night sky (Default)
From: [personal profile] kiki_eng
I did see, yeah. I'm kind of mulling? I had a hard enough time with ten. I feel like I was skipping things and am possibly going to break down and change my Farscape nom to a horror film and there are too many options.

I'm surprised no one's nominated Yellow Submarine (film) or Hotel California yet. Just- there's a lot of music stuff out there.

I feel like there are a lot of different threads or routes a list like this can take so it's going to be really interesting to see what it looks like.

There's so much stuff on this list I don't know about, too, so that is pretty exciting. (*Makes curious noises about Valérian et Laureline at you*)

Date: 2011-08-21 08:10 am (UTC)
calvinahobbes: Calvin holding a cardboard tv-shape up in front of himself (Default)
From: [personal profile] calvinahobbes
Yes, you're right, there's so much music, but it's certainly not what springs to my mind first thing. I hope people take advantage of the extra nominations (I keep wanting to write noms, but I CAN'T, lolcats have ruined me!).

Maybe I should post about Valérian and Laureline...? It is quite good for a 1970s sci-fi comic. The art is really nice, and the ideas are pretty brilliant. Many of the storylines are really thinly veiled Current Issues in that unabashed 70s way, which I think is adorable. There's a lot of deep-seated irony about power politics and colonization. Laureline is pretty cool, even though they try to get around how she is The Chick by joking about it -- don't joke, change it up! But, you know, she has a gun and an attitude, and I like her. I grew up reading the comics at my school library, but it's very different to sit down and actually read them.

Date: 2011-08-22 11:46 am (UTC)
kiki_eng: two bats investigating plants against the night sky (Default)
From: [personal profile] kiki_eng
I keep wanting to write noms, but I CAN'T, lolcats have ruined me!
Yeah, I couldn't make myself use it as a verb. I think I only managed the noun because it was singular.

I would be interested in such a post. The comics sound really neat. (Are there many of them?)

Date: 2011-08-24 05:42 pm (UTC)
calvinahobbes: Calvin holding a cardboard tv-shape up in front of himself (Default)
From: [personal profile] calvinahobbes
Hee, that might make a difference!

Hmm... I might be able to throw something together. There are about 20 albums, all discreet stories. I keep reading them and finding new things that are like... "throw-forwards" to sci-fi staples. Look, flying cars!
Edited (a href fail) Date: 2011-08-24 05:42 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-08-24 08:00 pm (UTC)
kiki_eng: two bats investigating plants against the night sky (Default)
From: [personal profile] kiki_eng
:) Flying cars are awesome.

I think that I shall have to make requests at my library.

Date: 2011-08-24 08:08 pm (UTC)
calvinahobbes: Calvin holding a cardboard tv-shape up in front of himself (Default)
From: [personal profile] calvinahobbes
You should totally do that. The first one, in original published sequence, "City of Shifting Waters" is not very sci-fi-ish. I liked "Welcome to Alflolol" -- that's the one with very explicit colonization themes, but the setting is very sci-fi-ish; it might be a good place to start, if your library doesn't have the Integrale editions (in which case Alflolol would be in Vol 2).

Date: 2011-08-24 10:38 pm (UTC)
kiki_eng: two bats investigating plants against the night sky (Default)
From: [personal profile] kiki_eng
...Valérian is a space-time agent!? *glees forever*

(My library doesn't have any of them, so I've put in a request and will see what happens.)

These look exciting. Thanks for nominating and explaining about them.

Date: 2011-08-25 06:39 am (UTC)
calvinahobbes: Calvin holding a cardboard tv-shape up in front of himself (Default)
From: [personal profile] calvinahobbes
The tragedy of the original title is that they are BOTH agents in space and time, Valérian just happened to be it first *grumps*

Yay, I'm excited you're trying them out! Let me know what you think!

Date: 2011-08-25 09:15 pm (UTC)
kiki_eng: two bats investigating plants against the night sky (Default)
From: [personal profile] kiki_eng
That they did end up changing the title is good, though.

It might be a while before I get my hands on them, so I might be doing that something like two months from now. (Just so you know.)

Date: 2011-08-20 10:26 pm (UTC)
kiki_eng: two bats investigating plants against the night sky (Default)
From: [personal profile] kiki_eng
Changing things around a bit and taking advantage of that +5 bit:

Removing:
Farscape (TV show)

Adding:
Sesame Street (TV show)
Mothership Connection by Parliament (Music - album)
Re: Your Brains by Jonathan Coulton (Music - song)

ETA: Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars should be down as The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars
Edited Date: 2011-08-21 03:02 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-08-21 01:52 am (UTC)
anatsuno: a women reads, skeptically (drawing by Kate Beaton) (Default)
From: [personal profile] anatsuno
If you liked Adèle the movie, I urge you to get your hands on Adèle, the comic book / graphic novel *series* which she originates with and that I grew up reading. It's by Tardi.

Date: 2011-08-21 03:12 am (UTC)
kiki_eng: two bats investigating plants against the night sky (Default)
From: [personal profile] kiki_eng
Thanks for the rec! :) I read the first two and liked them; I really need to work on getting my hands on the rest.

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