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1. I posted that high-protein cookie recipe that I mentioned a while ago over at [community profile] omnomnom! Also, I might've had some of those cookies for breakfast.

2. An interview meme from [personal profile] chagrined!

a. What was your first fandom ever! (however you define this)

This is actually kind of hard! The first show I was fannish about was Battlestar Galactica. Seriously. In reruns. So I have this first-fandom icon for it:

Because I watched the show and thought seriously about it and wrote like 300 page long drawer-fic in which Starbuck got tortured a lot and Apollo and Boomer rescued him, or sometimes Apollo got tortured and Starbuck and Boomer rescued him, and then they had to bathe wounds etc, or occasionally there was brainwashing and amnesia, but nobody ever had sex, because I was eight. Also I think the ship talked to them.

(Other drawerfic of this period included an RPF Buddy Holly/Doctor Who crossover story where the Doctor stopped everybody from getting onto the plane that killed Buddy Holly and Ritchie Valens and the Big Bopper, and then Buddy Holly made up with the rest of his band; a Redwall story where whatsisname the priest-mouse wasn't dead REALLY; a Knight Rider story where Kitt and Michael Knight had ADVENTURES, and probably Michael Knight was kidnapped and tortured some; a Fantastic Journey story that got everyone home after the show was canceled, but not without everyone being captured and put into prison for a while; and other stuff as WELL.)

Later I learned that fanfiction was a real thing, by discovering some on the Star Wars message boards, but all the stuff I found was totally canonical and therefore boring Han/Leia, so I didn't join the message boards or the fandom. This was about the time of Timothy Zhan's novels, though, so I read those. (And once again: drawerfic! Leia got trained to be a Jedi and I think she had a lemur familiar or something, because of all those Jedi familiars, you know. And I think Luke got force-tortured for a while.) And I was boy-fannish about B5: I read JMS's commentary on usenet, and thought srsly about prophecy, and whatever, but didn't encounter the fanfic-writing media-fannish part of fandom.

Then I found slash! Because due South had wonderful, wonderful archives and mailing lists sorted by rating and not pairing, and I was like, oh, yes, that! That is what I wanted! I read stuff on the archives for a while, and then joined the mailing lists riiiight about the beginning of season three. So my first mailing list-fandom was kind of the Ray Wars.

(Then I jumped over to the Sentinel after reading a crossover, and the first episode of the Sentinel that I ever saw on tv was Sentinel, Too Part 1. For a long time this was my experience of fandom: I joined right in the middle of huge kerfuffles, or as the fandom was being canceled, or at a transitional moment, or whatever. Then I lurked a lot.)

b. What is your favorite type of sushi? (I am asking a lot of sushi questions for this meme I guess)

If I'm at a sushi place with really good fish, I like to get sashimi platters with salmon and tuna and red snapper and other things as well, nom. If I'm at a less-good sushi place, I usually get unagi rolls or spicy tuna.

c. How did you and Twings accomplish the task of co-vidding together? (Haha, I've just never done this and am curious about the steps involved and how they may differ from single-vidding.)

Mostly by sitting next to each other on the floor and going, like, "no, okay, what if we speed it up to 125%?" or "can we make it any shorter? shit, it's already only 17 frames." :)

When we started out we split up a bunch of fandoms -- I think there were 80 or so on our first list -- mostly by genre or by who'd seen what or who had familiarity. So, like, she took all the 80s romcoms, we split up the scifi tv, I took a bunch of gay film I'd seen. At the beginning, we had the song and the concept, and we didn't know what all the verses were going to be about. So we watched our individual fandoms individually, and clipped things that seemed interesting, and we kept all the source so we could go back to it. We weren't in the same place for most of the summer, so in mid-August or so we took all our clips and looked at them all together and then started to actually diagram out the song.

Once we started organizing clips and setting them on a timeline we we had to know our source, and the other person's clips, really really well, because we couldn't possibly both watch the same source! I think this is probably the big difference from other co-vidding projects; if it's a single fandom, probably both people are familiar with it. But for us, we had these themes (and then parts of the song we didn't know what to do with), but we didn't know what was in the non-clipped part of tv shows or movies the other person watched. So we would sometimes have to go track something down -- we'd be organizing clips, and one of us would say "oh, you know, there's a clip like that in X, I'll go back and get it..." Or one of us would be watching something new and recognize the same framing as a clip that we'd looked at earlier.

So, just as an example, the spinny-dancing part: she watched Dirty Dancing, and clipped the sexy parts of the dance. I saw those clips before I watched Strictly Ballroom, so I clipped the spinny part of it (plus some other stuff in case). Then she was watching Sound of Music, and grabbed the spinny part (and some other stuff). Then we had this gap at the end of the line for a while, waiting for another spinny clip, before she spotted the Mary Poppins. Then the Priscilla is her, the Labyrinth is me, the LA Confidential is me, and the Mr. and Mrs. Smith is hers, and I think I watched Singing in the Rain but she spotted that moment in what I'd clipped. (I wanted to do the three of them on the couch and had forgotten about that dance.)

Like, basically, we sat down on the floor with four external hard drives and two laptops and we compared clips, and then we sorted clips, and then we said "oh damn, I should have clipped that thing from X," and then we diagrammed the music some more, and then we shared more clips. There was a lot of written-down stuff, not just what she posted but tons and tons of pre- or mid- vid work where we'd write down all the [whatever] we had, because otherwise we'd forget, and then put them together by framing, and then argue about zooming in on some of them, and then try zooming in on some of them, and then talk about which one of them best started the sequence, and then finally we would start setting things in the sequence in these tiny little bits. We vidded things we had ideas for early on (like the oh baby sequence, which we decided would be iconic but uncooperative footage in like May, and which we put together in October, but which still had a gap until late November, or the sequence of childhood-ruining, or the vampires) got vidded first, and then we would have ideas for other bits and have to go back and clip more.

The actual vidding seems to pale in comparison to finding sources! We spent a lot of time at it, too, but it seems like so much less, because we broke it down into sections and because we did so much pre-vidding organization. But we did it sitting in the same room, and it involved a lot of thwapping the table to try to figure out what was going on with the beats, saying "okay, what if it's a frame shorter?" and "what if we speed it up/slow it down?" Usually by the time we were putting things in the timeline, we'd have an order and an idea of how they should fit (though sometimes we were wrong) so it would mostly be like "so, the bit where his hand comes up?" "Yeah, but maybe give it a beat before it does?" "like this?" "damn, that doesn't work at all -- what if we switch X and Y?" "then it's not on the beat, is it?" "okay, which if Z goes first, and then we zoom in on X and take it a couple frames earlier?" Twings had the vidding software and did the keystrokes etc, which also might be different from how other people co-vid -- we did the sequence part all on one computer.

So that is how we co-vidded, basically by living in each other's BRAINS for a while and talking about nothing else.

d. What is your favorite vacation spot and why?

I don't think I have one! I like my vacation spots to be calm and have the internet and some green growing things, ideally. But actually many of my recent vacations have been to BookExpo America, or to somebody's wedding, or whatever.

e. If the Mythbusters team were all dragons ala the Temeraire series, what types of dragons would they all be? XD

Hmmm, well, I haven't read the series in a long time. But I think Jamie has to be a heavyweight, so he could be a Regal Copper. He would ttly do the Maximus-like "oh, calm down." So then Adam has to be a slightly smaller and more energetic and annoying dragon, so that he can go "Jamie! Jamie! Hey! Jamie! Look at me!" He could be a Kazlik, maybe, or a Pou de Ciel.

Kari could be a Longwing. And maybe Grant is an Anglewing? I don't know what kind of dragon Tory would be -- what kind of dragon would jump a bike over a red wagon? I guess a Kazlik again!

3. I actually kind of feel like I'm posting all the time right now, because I'm writing up [community profile] kink_bingo related stuff: resources, posting template, accessability, kink wiki stuff about kinks X and Y and Z. But then I don't post it! Because it has to wait until round two is closed! So I keep being a little confused about what I've posted and where. *facepalm*

4. I'm sort of doing three weeks for dreamwidth all the time, since I'm not crossposting, but I thought this related meme was interesting: What kind of topics/entries would you like to see me posting about? Any particular questions you've always wanted to ask me but have resisted because the answer would be a huge essay? Ever want to wind me up and watch me go on a particular topic? Anything you've heard me say "I should write that entry about _________ I've been meaning to write" and have been patiently waiting for? (from [personal profile] telesilla)

Date: 2010-04-26 05:38 pm (UTC)
chagrined: Marvel comics: zombie!Spider-Man, holding playing cards, saying "Brains?" (brains?)
From: [personal profile] chagrined
Yayyyyy! Hahaha, you answered those questions much, much faster than I came up with them. XD I don't think I've encountered any Anglewings yet in the book, hmmm. But I would be ttly amused by Adam and Tory being relatively smaller fire-breathing dragons compared to the rest of them being heavyweights, tee-hee. HILARITY. I can just picture them in my head now, rolling around squabbling and blasting each other with fire, and Jamie swatting them both out of the air in annoyance or something. Heheh.

The write-up about the co-vidding process is super-interesting! I really enjoyed reading that; thank-you for sharing. :D

Also your eight-year-old drawer-fic-writing self is ttly adorable.

Date: 2010-04-26 06:39 pm (UTC)
such_heights: amy and rory looking at a pile of post (xkcd: boom de yada)
From: [personal profile] such_heights
I enjoyed this post! And, as ever, am in total awe of the amount that went into the Yuletide vid.

As for topics to write about - I would be interesting in hearing about any films/books/tv you are enjoying at the moment!

Date: 2010-04-26 08:12 pm (UTC)
anatsuno: a robot pats Captain Jack Harkness on the ass (fine packaging)
From: [personal profile] anatsuno
like such_heights, I am always so gobsmacked reading about the making of the Yuletide vid. :)

Date: 2010-04-27 12:16 am (UTC)
telesilla: (toppy mcdom)
From: [personal profile] telesilla
So I, of course, LOVE [community profile] kink_bingo and I'm just wondering why you & TWW started it up and if you had any idea that it would get to be a huge as it is now.

Date: 2010-04-27 01:15 am (UTC)
livrelibre: DW barcode (Default)
From: [personal profile] livrelibre
Mmm, cookies and sushi (not together)! And y'all's creative processes in general just blow my mind:)


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