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[eruthros]

One of the things thingswithwings and I are trying to do with the kink_bingo wiki is to expand the fandoms, and more importantly the types of fandoms, that we depict in the images that accompany the text. The examples I come up with are almost always from my fannish history -- I can think of a Buffy example for anything -- and TVtropes is not always descriptive enough to be helpful.

So, in the interests of expanding the fandoms, I have some questions for you guys! I'd love to hear about examples from comics or live action tv or anime or movies or things you know I've seen or things you know I haven't seen. (Episode or issue names/numbers/plot summaries/some other way to find things would be helpful but isn't necessary.)

1. Animal-people! People who turn into animals, people who have animalistic features, people who wear animal outfits, people who act like animals a la Wolverine.

2. Bondage! Bondage is so easy to do that I always go "oh, whatever, any scene I've seen on tv," but really I ought to expand the fandoms. We'd love all kinds of bondage: straightjackets, handcuffs, chained up, complicated rope bondage, hogtied, tied to chairs, tied to someone else, anything.

3. Mind control! Or hypnosis or amnesia or anything similar.

4. Sensation play type stuff -- people brushed with needles or fur or enjoying their silk shirts or whatever. Or blindfolds! Blindfolds are good.

5. Anything that your fandom is really good at! Like, Star Trek TOS is hugely into mind control, and Veronica Mars is all over voyeurism, but I'd never have known that without watching those shows, so what am I missing from your favorite show?

Comments

[aris_tgd]

I was going to say "Well, bondage is all over Babylon 5" but then realize of course you would know that already. ;)

In Classic Who there are a number of people-turning-into-animals moments. The big one that's on my mind right now is when Peri gets turned into a bird in Vengeance on Varos, but there are more, I'm sure. Oh, there's a werewolf girl who's flirting with Ace in The Greatest Show in the Galaxy.

Ultraviolet (TV) has vampires with canonical mind-control biting. ("It makes you very susceptible to suggestion" is the line.) They mostly use it to make people forget they've been bitten at all, but YOU NEVER KNOW. Also, do you know how much canonical voyeurism there is in MI-5 in just the first two seasons? SERIOUS AMOUNTS. It's kinda awesome, in a Big Brother is Watching You Masturbate kind of way.

[eruthros]

Ha, but that's the problem, I can never remember the bondage scenes except when someone remdinds me! Hmm, there's Sinclair and his weird triangle suspension, there's Delenn handcuffed to the frame thingy, and... probably other stuff as well.

Big Brother is Watching You Masturbate? Srsly? That's a lot of voyeurism!

[isagel]

For #1, the first thing that springs to mind for me right now is Sanctuary, which has both Bigfoot, who is a person with fur, and Henry, who is a werewolf (also, those two are so in love, OMG). That show also has Tesla, who is the best embodiment of the electricity kink since Elle on Heroes.

ETA: Also, I keep wanting someone to write me Henry piercing fic. I think this is mostly a case of the PTB being too lazy to care whether the actor left his piercings in or took them out, but shirtless Henry scenes always jolt me with the realization that it's really rare to see male characters on tv with multiple body piercings unless the PTB specifically want to signal the character being weird/dark.

I should be able to come up with a lot more examples for a lot more things. *ponders*

[eruthros]

Your ETA makes me extra happy, because I also couldn't think of any male heroic characters with body piercings! That's awesome.

Aaaand also, although I love the werewolf idea, I am particularly taken by a character named Tesla, awww.

[chagrined]

Oh wow, comics are ALL OVER #1. Uhhhh. Beast Boy (DCU) turns into animals. Animal Man (DCU) takes on the abilities of animals. Gorilla Grodd (DCU) ~is~ an animal. So is Monsieur Mallah (DCU). Actually apparently there are tons of gorillas in comics, heh. And actually actually, here is a list of animal superheroes. Which isn't counting the ones who just dress like animals. Cheetah (DCU) came to mind at first, but then I remembered that something happened to her character and she is actually now part-cheetah or something. Uhhh, Hawk and Dove (DCU). Also Hawkman and Hawkgirl (DCU) (though their wings are real and they're aliens). There are no doubt scads and scads more. And as you can tell from these, I have a lot more exposure to DCU than Marvel. Though right off the top of my head, Marvel also has Spider-Man and Black Cat and Black Panther.

More: Batman, Batwoman, Batgirl, Robin, Beast, Phoenix, Catwoman, Penguin, Wildcat... Then I got sick of looking/thinking, haha.

[eruthros]

Oh, COMICS. Hawkman and Hawkgirl ttly count, because they have animalistic characteristics according to us -- we told SEVERAL people that wingfic was okay for animal play.

[wrabbit]

This is all I can think atm in the Sandman comics.

1. Dream turns feline around Bast. Bast has feline features with a female human body; she's rather sexualized and really into Dream. Matthew is a raven who used to be human and Lucien was a former one of Dream's ravens, but he's not anymore. In the first volume with Dee, there's a scene where he brainwashes a group of people into thinking that they are wild animals and he has two of them fight to the death. There are a lot of animals who act like people if that counts at all.

2. In the first issue Dream spends a human lifetime in a glass orb and later he puts Azazel in a jar and keeps him in his trunk, but I don't know if that counts :D I think the twins Agony and Ecstasy capture at least one demon in their barbed wire rope and they appear in the Hellblazer comics as well.

3. Dream. Seriously. He controls your dreams. Delirium makes people go mad. Desire makes them, well, desire each other. There is also an issue that takes place over twenty four hours where a human Dee steals some of Dream's power and forces a diner full of people to do horrible things.

I can look up issue numbers later if you want the specifics.

[eruthros]

I actually haven't read Sandman -- bad fangirl, no cookie -- but IIRC thingswithwings is a fan and owns it, so we can probably track things down! Putting people in jars sounds like a great visual :)

It sounds like Sandman is all over mind control, too! Very cool.

[sabinetzin]

3. Oh, oh! Gunsmith Cats (the manga) is all ate up with the mind control. Mind control drugs drive most of the plot of the original series, actually.

5. Ahaha, and speaking of Gunsmith Cats, there's a hilarious scene in Burst (the newer series) that could easily be taken for watersports kink; our intrepid anti-heroes are in the desert, and Bean is sort of tripping from the heat, and he tries to talk Rally into, well, giving him something to drink, as it were. He then sort of passes out, and he's just laying on the floor muttering "Piss" over and over.

[eruthros]

... this is totally why I'm glad I asked these questions, because I'd never even heard of Gunsmith Cats, but this sounds awesome.

[giandujakiss]

If you don't use Legend of the Seeker for BDSM, leather anything, you will be guilty of serious fandom misconduct.

I don't know if it counts for mind control but in Lois and Clark there's an episode called Pheremone My Lovely where someone invents what is essentially a sex pollen perfume, and everyone goes wild.

Oh, oh - animals - how about the entire run of Beauty & the Beast (remember? from the 80s?) I link.

[eruthros]

I don't want to be guilty of fandom misconduct! I think that's at least a misdemeanor. Is there anything in particular that makes it a great fandom for leather? Do they just wear a lot of it? I haven't seen any of it at all, and I've missed fannish osmosis for it!

I think sex pollen probably goes under aphrodisiacs, though there's some overlap, but I'll check out that episode of Lois & Clark! Oooh, though, now that you say Lois & Clark I vaguely recall an episode where Superman is hypnotized or brainwashed or something into being a bad guy? Possibly?

[sasha_feather]

Has anyone mentioned The Middleman?

The Middleman, episode 4, woman in Yellow Bear suit. The trailer and a dance scene can be seen on YouTube.

[eruthros]

Nope, nobody has! I've heard good things about it (and it stars lots of people I like!) but I've never seen it, so maybe this will be an impetus to check it out :)

[sophinisba]

1. -In Merlin 2x09 Merlin falls in love with Freya, a woman who at night secretly turns into a giant catlike monster with wings and kills people.

-The Princess and the Frog!

3. -In Merlin 2x05 and 2x06 an evil troll woman gives Uther an enchanted necklace that causes him to fall in love with her and do whatever she says (including disinheriting Arthur and other decisions that are very bad for the kingdom).

-In Lost 5x10 these guys from the Dharma Initiative strap Sayid to a tree and force him to swallow truth serum, and then when they interrogate him he's all loose and smiling (and hot).

[eruthros]

... srsly Sayid all loose and smiley? That's AWESOME, I loved him back when I watched Lost! Awww.

[blushingflower]

Well, Dollhouse is basically all about mind control. I know a lot of people find the consent issues really squicky, but the chair they use to wipe minds would work.

Twilight has what cleolinda termed "fursplosion" when the werewolves turn from human into animal. (cf. the flying leap transformation that takes place starting circa 0:47 of this video. I suggest watching it on mute)

Also, you should use Beast from the X Men for something, possibly furries or something, because he's wonderful and covered in blue fur.

I feel like there's some non-genre show I like where there's a bit about touching someone's clothing b/c it's so soft or something, but I can't remember precisely what it is at the moment. I will get back to you if it comes to me. Otherwise, I think our fandoms line up enough that I don't know of anything I expect you don't already know about.

[eruthros]

That is an AWESOME fursplosion! And Beast is a great idea; I love him to pieces.

Even within my biggest fandoms, I totally forget important scenes -- brainstorming is hard!

Random fandoms

[chagrined]

-The Dragon Ball manga was immensely into scatalogical humor.
-Ranma 1/2: sex/gender play, animal transformation, ...engagement kink? Haha.
-Sailor Moon manga had a lot of mind control iirc
-Gravitation had some really excellent worship in the Tatsuha/Ryuuichi
-Er, Yami no Matsuei the anime is very much about non-con, bondage, bloodplay, and the like. Good clip where Muraki ties Tsuzuki up and licks blood off his finger. ...And other stuff.

-Beast and his girlfriend Abigail Brand from X-Men have a kinky relationship. I don't remember if specifics are discussed and don't have my issue with me, but anyway, it's implied. Oh here, I found a quote:
Beast: I guess I'll start. I'm fairly certain I hate you.
Abigail Brand: Well, that's kind of the point. I need someone to hate me. Professionally. I'm good at -- well, I'm uniquely qualified for -- my job. But I made some crap calls this time around, and we both lost men we shouldn't have. You're smarter than any dozen guys and you'll question my every waking gesture. On the job, there's nothing I could use more.
Beast: And off the job?
Abigail Brand: Pretty much wanna break you like a pony. It's a win-win.

-There's this great scene near the end of Hannibal where Clarice identifies a potential breastfeeding fixation in Hannibal, then puts milk on her breast and offers it to him, and he suckles it.
-There's the ABBA turd in The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert
-Dexter had role-playing that time when Rita dressed up as Lara Croft. Also Deb and Lundy had spanking kink, and a bit of a daddy kink.
-Kyle XY would be good for sensory play, given Kyle's heightened senses.
-Animorphs had lots of animal transformation, plus Tobias was default stuck as a hawk the whole time he and Rachel dated (though he could morph temporarily into a human).
-The Abhorson series had some interesting stuff with bondage, with the various evil whatevers who were bound with rings and stuff, like Moggat. And that is also mind control. Actually the whole theme of the series is bondage, basically, with binding the spirits or w/e. Combining bondage & sensory play in interesting ways. Also necrophilia.
-Dark Angel had combination animal play / aphrodisiacs with how Max & her siblings would go into heat due to their cat DNA. Also more potential animal play with many of the other characters. Max and what's-his-face also had sensory deprivation / can't-touch-syndrome due to that stupid plot device virus.
-Finding Nemo: Dory & memory-play
-Civilization IV would be excellent at master-slave. Oh, vassals.
-The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening: amnesia
-Creatures computer games: Well, I used to spank those Norns SO MUCH, haha
-Leisure Suit Larry (the first one being the only one I've played): bondage, sex toys, aphrodisiacs, dirty talk, public humiliation
-The Jeff Corwin Experience: Well, there was that one episode where the baby elephant groped him and he responded, "No, I said I'd give you peanuts!"
-Band of Brothers has that time Winters throws pee in Nixon's face in their shared living quarters.
-FOX IN SOCKS: animal play, potential clothing fetishes, bondage, obedience, potentially voyeurism, chewing fixation, licking fixation, property destruction kink, smacking/hitting, ...lol I just thought watersports but not really (it's a sport, played in water; well actually I guess the substance is never specified as water, so it COULD be watersports), food kink, role reversal, sensory deprivation, AND OF COURSE THE DOMINANT KINK OF THE WHOLE BOOK, FOR THE READER AS WELL AS KNOX: verbal humiliation

Re: Random fandoms

[eruthros]

... I have nothing to say to you but WOW. You are THOROUGH. And also that is a great kink scene with Beast in it, awww!

[pocketmouse]

Obviously, White Collar needs to be added to the bondage section, among others. Mmm....

Uh, Whose Line had a skit (youtubeable) where Ryan was a boa constrictor and Colin was turned on by danger. It's, um, special. Like most Whose Line.

I'll have to see if I can think of more.

[eruthros]

... I just went and took a look at that clip on youtube and, just, oh, Whose Line! That was a great show. (I was also thinking about the party quirks skit that happened soon after Wayne had admitted his ticklishness -- the one where Colin plays a Batman villain called the Tickler.)

[monanotlisa]

I told sandynotlisa about White Collar and its easy, oh-so-easy kinky reading. :) I mean, both that show and SGA really lend themselves to it but are already on your list.

The Vampire Diaries are into mind-control too, and surprisingly little into blood-play, for example. Err, Spartacus - not my show! - is also mucho with the bondage, and probably everything else that's not fictional.

[eruthros]

Really! A vampire show that's more about mind control than blood sounds fascinating.

[marina]

I just made a post about it today but Spartacus: Blood and Sand is a show where, to quote devilc the writers seem to print out kink_bingo cards each week and see how many squares they can score.

A partial list of kinks so far graphically exhibited on this show: watersports, dubious consent, voyeurism, exhibitionism, dirty/sweaty sex, public humiliation, genital torture, bondage (lots and lots of it), branding, HUGE, HUGE, HUGE amounts of dominance/submission (like, there are at least 4 scenes in 5 episodes of this show that I can think of where the gladiators are forced to perform sexually for the physical or voyeuristic pleasure of their owners, and that's not to mention other slaves).

[eruthros]

... impressive, Spartacus! That's showing some dedication to kink :)

[bironic]

There was a terrible show in the late '90s called Roar that I loved anyway, which had a fantastic shirtless branding scene. Also, off the top of my head, wet and messy/dirty with a guy going down on a woman in a mud bath, and begging/humiliation. I can totally get you pix and/or video clips from my DVDs.

Also:

- Brimstone for tattoos - pretty much every episode ended with one burning off and Peter Horton making wince-y orgasm faces
- Thoughtcrimes for mind control
- There's a great gun play moment in the movie The Professional where Gary Oldman trails his handgun over Natalie Portman's jaw

...It's hard to do this after thinking "John Sheppard!" for just about every Bingo square. :D

[eruthros]

A shirtless branding scene! Oh, awesome -- I'd love a video clip or even just an episode number. The other scenes sound cool, too, (begging! WAM!) but branding is a rare kink in the fandoms I know so I'm really excited about that :)

I have that problem, too! It's all John Sheppard all the time.

[facetofcathy]

I would expect RPF kink visuals might be a bit rare, so there is the famous Misha Collins bends Jared Padalecki over to use him as a writing desk--on stage at a con--and Jensen Ackles is facepalming off to one side. That's multi-kink action there.

My personal White Collar fav. is the more subtle Neal sitting on the floor while Peter is in a chair scene.

SG1 has Daniel Jackson dressed up in a slave-boy get up that needs seeing to be believed, but which episode that is escapes me at the moment.

[pi]

I believe the SG1 ep you may be thinking of is "Summit" ep 15 of season 5. In which Daniel, is sent disguised as Goa'uld Yu's personal human slave, to release a poison to kill all the System Lords at their summit/meeting.

[katarik]

G1 TRANSFORMERS (cartoon):

Mind control, one of MANY, SERIOUSLY: 2x05, "Traitor" -- Bombshell takes over Mirage with his 'cerebro-shells,' turning Mirage into an entirely aware puppet.

Personality reversal, in case that is useful for your purposes: 2x07, "Changing Gears" -- Megatron removes a special circuit from Gears, for an entirely other purpose, but the removal turns Gears from a cranky, grumpy hypochondriac into a massively laid-back, nice guy who is a complete pushover for somebody wanting him to do something, even if the somebody in question is Megatron.

Starscream and Megatron in general are really, really good for dominance scenes or pain scenes, or for humiliation (public or private).

TOKYO BABYLON is a CLAMP manga, which means it is automatically stomping on h/c, pain play, blood play, and dubcon. TB specifically also hits age kink and the fetishization of innocence. X (movie or anime or manga) will also give you lots and lots of h/c and blood play.

DNAngel (manga or anime) will give you beautiful wingkink.

PITCH BLACK will give you heavy-duty bondage in the first ten minutes or so, easy. It will also work for drugs, if that is ever a square. It may also work for sensation play -- Riddick got a shine job on his eyes to let him see in the dark. This makes lots of light complicated.

DRAGONBALL Z has moments of Piccolo's clawed hands in Gohan's hair that make me squeak in my seat, if that would give you anything useful for sensation play. They also have lots and lots of saurian and feline humanoids.

I thiiiiiiiiiiiink that is all I have for you at the moment? BUT I BET THAT COULD CHANGE. Brain-inna-jar, time travel, TF has it!

[eruthros]

... the number of these fandoms that I know nothing about is a little sad. But I will learn! Because, a shine job on his eyes! Hands in hair! And that episode of G1 transformers! This is an amazing list, thanks so much :)

Supernatural

[landshark]

Let's see...

There's that episode where Sam has sex with a werewolf-girl...

The episode were the vampires steal the colt there is bondage, and a threesome/voyeurism scene (I'm assuming some bloodplay as well lol)...

Multiple episodes with people being tied to chairs...

Multiple situations of mind control via possession...

One episode where people do anything a guy tells them...

Few different times Sam and Dean get caught by police and there are handcuffs and leg shackles...

Lots of dressing like janitors/FBI agents/repairmen/etc.

Some torture scenes, if that counts...

Bondage and cutting during the christmas episode...

General religious themes?

Sorry these are pretty vague :\

Re: Supernatural

[ariadne83]

There's also the Trickster episode where that guy thinks he's been abducted by aliens.

[j00j]

Star Trek TNG: Lots of things, I'm sure, but how bout them Klingon pain sticks? http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Painstik for numerous ep titles/numbers.

Bondage: Um... I noticed Fiona got tied up and tossed in a car trunk last week on Burn Notice while pretending to have been abducted. That was ep 3x14 "Partners in Crime." I'm sure I could come up with more comprehensive examples, but it looks like people are coming up with plenty, so I'll stick with the recent one.

[eruthros]

Awww, TNG! That's a great idea, thanks!

Fiona's only pretending to be abducted in that scene? I haven't seen it, but that sounds very cool!

[zvi]

Farscape had so much in the way of bodily fluids, although usually not used for sexiness.

There's canonical mpreg in Peacekeeper Wars, where Rygel is pregnant with Aeryn and John's baby. (I don't think he looks any rounder though.)

Stark is kind of a necrophile.

Zhaan has mindsex (Unity) with several people, the episode Rhapsody in Blue shows it, and she does it with Aeryn in the first or second episode of season 3.

The Vorkarian Blood Trackers are very doglike. Moya is a living ship, so that's ... not exactly an anthropomorphized location.

Er, there's a couple of times when John (and D'Argo?) wind up in women's clothes. Coup by Clam is the time he's in bad drag, but there's another time when he's just drugged and put in lingerie.

Oh! Speaking of clothes, this is the show of hot people in leather. There's just a lot of awesome leather all around, starting in season 2.

[eruthros]

Oh, Farscape, I <3 it so much -- it's so good at kinks! And at messy bodies! I will keep an eye out for these.

[loligo]

For animal characters, Princess Tutu is an anime in which a couple of the characters transform between human and animal, and many others are (inexplicably) animals all the time -- like the anteater ballerina *g*. I don't feel like the show's aesthetic particularly lends itself to kink, but others may feel differently!

[eruthros]

Even if its aesthetic isn't very kinky, an anteater ballerina sounds to awesome to not share!

[pi]

Loveless is like a treasure trove. I *love* it to death. I was recently discussing shows with bondage kink with a friend and Loveless is the first that comes to mind, though perhaps more in the manga than in the anime. There's the whole bit with the 'ultimate restraint' in the fight with between the two sets of zeros, which is quite lovingly drawn, full body binding, blinders and all. Then of course there's the average word-battle scene involving chains and collars generally leading to kissing (and also perhaps good for pain play with the whole 'Scarifice takes the damage' thing). There's bloodplay how the male zeros like to stab things, and how easy with blood and physical pain Soubi can be (the nail and hand bit as well as the earing interlude with the male zeros). I cannot see how having Ritsuka pierce Soubi's ears is not playing into a piercing kink as the entire thing was highly sexualized/full of sexual tension. There's also the issue of age/consent which is interestingly played with. I'd be generally leary-ish of it, but Loveless turns it upside down a bit having Ritsuka's word as a Sacrifice be law for Soubi. So, technically Ritsuka holds all the power even though Soubi's older. So they have very interesting D/s dynamics (though due to all the fluctuations due to Ritsuka, and Soubi's mental issues it's not a fully-yet established relationship. Seimei/Soubi on the other hand...) So of course there are lots of niggly bits, every time consent comes up (and the entire concept behind it all) is fascinating. It's also interesting to discuss sensory deprivation in reference to the zeros (at least the male ones) as they feel nothing (not temperature, or pain at the very least) so technically both of them live sensory deprived. There's also writing on the body in the Fighter/Sacrifice pair names. We're not sure how they appear yet but Soubi's/Beloved would probably count as scarification, and others we've seen look more plain written so there's something there perhaps. And finally (though there are probably more I'm not thinking of) it'd be perfect for film/photography as Soubi is introduced to Ritsuka by him taking pictures of everything. Ritsuka is afraid he'll forget so he always takes photos, he has quite a large collection of Soubi photos already and I wouldn't be surprised if the photo obsession went further as well.

Sanctuary has already been mentioned, Tesla and electricity, all the shape shifters/phase shifters/animal-like people, werewolves, the Big Guy, all the dwellers of the sanctuary we see in passing esp. in season 1 (wings, reptilian, fish related)...there's also Kali as of the finale, she's a giant underwater spider, but she's also a gorgeous goddess/mental projection/personification (no idea how to describe it exactly). Oh, and there's the guy in Japan with the *awesome* eyes. And then there's Magnus' age, it'd be interesting to play with that.

And obviously there's White Collar for bondage as well as D/s dynamics.

Also, Smallville, the pheromone-mind-control ep of S2? comes to mind. RedK could work for either aphrodisiac or drugs/alcohol, and there was that ep with the ancient alien-worm-parasite which also lowered inhibitions and lead to making out/shirt ripping off if I remember correctly. With all the M.O.W. characters I'm sure there were more. There's the possibility with breathplay with the drowning/mouth to mouth and people choking/beating up etc Lex. And of course voyeurism inherent in Superman's abilities.

Eastwick has the canonic mind control bit with JoAnna's gift though she's reluctant to use it, and Kat's gift would probably lend itself to sensation play once she moves it to the small scale instead of setting night clubs on fire and freezing pools. Having Kat's emotions/physical feelings come through in projected sensation could be fun.

Chevalier D'Eon is all about the cross dressing...and getting possessed by your sister. But, yeah, the purple dress and all that. Also there's the possibility in that Durand likes Lia, Lia's in D'Eon's body leading to consent/role play/costuming of wearing someone else's skin. But mostly, cross dressing (and zombies)

X/1999 is a good one for bloodplay as Fuma supposedly grants everyone's hearts desire and every time he sees Kamui, Kamui ends up bleeding. There are also lots of other things in X, as one expects with CLAMP, almost every possible pairing comes with it's own kink (or strong possibility of one).

.Hack//Sign is an odd show to think of kink for, however as it is in itself already a MMORPG role playing lends itself to this fandom, particularly for characters who know each other in the real world and have different relationships online vs. real life (I think most primarily of BT...and perhaps BT/Bear?), then there's the sleepy/unconscious which plays interestingly in that .hack//sign itself is entirely preoccupied with the fact that Tsukassa is unconscious, but still in the World playing. So 'his' consciousness is active, but his body is unconscious. This is perhaps particularly interesting with interpreting the ending where Subaru and Tsukassa see one another, run, grab hands and then it pixelates, returning to the world. The idea of conscious connection even with an unconscious body and Subaru going to see Tsukassa able to communicate with 'him' via the World even while 'his' body remains unawake.

Utena is one of the first things I think of for "cross dressing". It also plays with consent though it's more like free will, as to who "owns" the rose bride. And there's the whole pull-sword-from-chest thing.

Due South would definitely be perfect for uniforms, as Fraser wears his dress uniform almost all the time...

Baccano might be good for bloodplay what with the immortals thing ... then there's Lad, also Lad's relationship to Lua (is there a kink for, "I'll kill you" talk?...Relena and Heero of GW would also fall under that).

Chuck would be good for voyerism what with all the bugs and the spying. And there's Casey's love of a good car.

On the note of vehicular, there's always the Bentley of Good Omens, and the Impala, and the Riv in Due South, or the GTO, ....also Jeep/Hakuryu in Saiyuki (a dragon/car...hmm)

I can easily see gunplay and Boondock Saints going together, seeing as when I watched with my roommate her reaction was "OMG, yay, gun porn!" though that was more along the lines of 'look at all the pretty firearms' but still, the thought is there.

And finally there should be more kink for Hetalia. Really that show has everything and as it's about countries.... I can't think of anything off the top of my head but it feels like there should be so many possibilities! There's age stuff, and the whole invading/taking over stuff (which could count for several different kinks depending how you spin it). And costuming, there's certainly a lot of begging that goes on in international politics (treaties etc...), exhibitionism (all the other countries know...) There's the Italy/Germany worship type thing, gunplay (every country has their favorite weapon), there's amnesia inherent in the Holy Roman Empire/Italy->Germany/Italy relationship with certain interpretations. And if someone could spin temperature play into global warming that would be ridiculous/awesome. Also, uniforms/military fetish... half of them are already wearing their uniform, and if they aren't they all have one (I'm thinking Hungary, awesome in her fatigues). Intercontinental... unusual extreme positions (though perhaps not for the personifications unless you tried to really recreate Pangea).

[eruthros]

Wow, thanks for the great list! I will definitely have to check these out -- especially Loveless. And I've only seen the first two eps of Saiyuki, and hadn't even thought of Jeep/Hakuryu!

(And hmm, maybe "I'll kill you" talk goes under dirty talk?)

[13th-blackbird.livejournal.com]

For sensation play, The X Files has an episode ("Never Again") where we see Scully get a tattoo. Of course, it has lots of handcuffing and bondage-y things, but what stands out in my memory is when someone (I think Skinner?) handcuffs Krychek to his balcony, and then Mulder comes over and smacks him around a little. TXF also has lots of hypnosis, they often show alien abductees being hypnotized ("Jose Chung's 'From Outer Space'" has several scenes of hypnosis) and Mulder gets hypnotized quite a few times ("The Field Where I Died" has some Mulder-hypnosis, IIRC). XF fandom seems pretty into roleplay/dressing up. There was at least one canon roleplay "undercover as a married couple" episode, "Arcadia". There's also that one episode with the mind-control guy, "Pusher". Man, I'm glad this was my first fandom. It taught me so much. ;)

Y the Last Man's (comic book series) protagonist, Yorick, is an escape artist, and we see him practicing his escape from a straitjacket a few times. He also undergoes a session of BDSM sexual torture as a psychological cure (it's a long story), so maybe that could count for mind control? He's also the one living bio-male in the world after a "gendercide" has killed the other XY chromosome holders, so the series has a lot of potential for genderplay, and some of it is explored in canon.

The new Battlestar Galactica has that episode where Adama and Roslin torture Gaius Baltar with the mind-control drug that makes him think he's drowning. And the Cylons use a Princess Bride style pain machine (oh, hey, and the Princess Bride has that pain machine!) on Baltar while Head-Six has sex with him. Baltar's all over the sensation play.

There's an anime, Get Backers, where one of the characters, Ban Midou, has the "Evil Eye," the power to trap someone in a vision for exactly one minute. Sort of like full-immersion hypnosis plus mind control. There are other characters with kink-potential as well, like Ginji's electricity powers, or their sort-of enemy Akabane's hundreds of scalpel blades that he can control with his mind.

I've been reading a lot of Sherlock Holmes fic lately and that fandom is really into genderplay (must be the Victorian costume!porn) and hand fetishism.

[eruthros]

Oh, the X-Files! It's totally a fandom made of hypnosis/mind control/shapeshifting -- I have got to figure out if we can do something with the undercover-married!

Thanks for the others -- I will have to check them out!

[theleaveswant]

Some stuff currently sitting on my hard drive that you may or may not have already been considering:

Dark Angel's been mentioned; lots of animal people (Joshua!) and cyborgs and enhanced senses/abilities and doppelgangers (clones) and guns and body mods and there's something vehicular to be said for all the bikes, not to mention Max's motorcycle. Max herself is, like, perpetually moist, especially in the first few eps.

BBC miniseries adaptations of Sarah Waters novels: Tipping the Velvet is all over Victorian gender play, costumes (red uniform!), prostitution, D/s, strap-ons. Fingersmith has some neat sensation play and obedience stuff with Maude's gloves and the rules about light and touching and everything in the GIANT PORN LIBRARY.

Secret Diary of a Call Girl (I've seen the first two series, just learned there's a third airing now) is about an escort, and she gets some pretty varied gigs (lots of roleplay, toys, costumes; also BDSM, dirty talk, sensation play, exhibitionism, orgies, watersports, writing on the body, gunplay--I can give you an ep-by-ep breakdown if you'd like) AND lots of attention (relatively speaking) to safer sex practices, which is nice.

Jekyll . . . I'm not sure how to use the Tom-Hyde body-sharing re: KB categories (it does involve amnesia and arguably mind control), but Hyde's got some animal qualities and enhanced senses and he calls Tom "Daddy" and there's some reeeeaally fun bondage and knifeplay stuff in episode three and more bondage in other eps (nifty chair in ep one and the stasis box things in eps four through six) and pretty much all over the place. James Nesbitt! Gina Bellman! Yesssss.

Sugar Rush is obnoxious and I often want to strangle the characters, but it's also impressively alternative-sexuality-positive (the first ep opens with queer teenage narrator Kim masturbating with an electric toothbrush and by the end of the second series Kim's dating a hot toppy women's sex store owner, her parents are orgy-attending swingers and her younger brother's a transvestite, with many adventures in between). Again, I can give a list of best scenes if you want. And Lenora Critchlow is adorable even when her character Sugar's doing something abhorrent.

OMFG Gargoyles! Sentient non-humans who glide and turn to stone and heal by day (perversion possibilities!), cyborgs, genetically-manipulated un-humans, robots and robosuits, fairy mayhem, werefoxes and wereleopards, mind control magic, bondage (not just folks getting tied and chained and locked up left right and centre, but also all the turning to stone--a day at a time or for a thousand years), the list goes on and on and on.

Going to sleep now; will see what else I can find or think of in the morning.

[eruthros]

I <3 Tipping the Velvet so much! It's a great adaptation :)

Secret Diary of a Call Girl stars Billie Piper, yes? That's all I've heard about it, but I am ttly thrilled by the idea of the orgies and gunplay especially -- noncon gunplay is in all sorts of sources, but I don't know of any other consensual gunplay!

Thanks so much for the list! Some of these I've never even heard of but will really need to take a look at. I'd absolutely be interested in a list of the best scenes from Sugar Rush :)

[such_heights]

I hope that you have already considered the latest Doctor Who episodes and the amount of bondage/collars/gagging going on with the Doctor and the Master, but I thought I would throw that out there!

[eruthros]

I ... actually haven't seen the recent DW episodes. I just couldn't do it! But thingswithwings is on it!

Since I haven't seen anyone mention these yet

[sophia-sol.livejournal.com]

1. The Sentinel. Jim and Blair are both represented as spirit-animals in Jim's visions, Jim as a panther and Blair as a wolf. (And there is that scene where their spirit animals merge, allowing Jim to bring Blair back to life... This is from the beginning of the first episode of the last season, I believe)

2. Man From UNCLE. SO MUCH SO. Napoleon and Illya are forever being tied up or bound in various inventive ways. I know I've come across at least one good picspam detailing the many, many times this happens, but I'm not coming up with any links offhand.

4. The Sentinel again. I mean, Jim has uber-senses, which Blair is forever testing him on to see what the limits are. But I'm afraid I haven't actually seen enough of The Sentinel to be able to tell you any particularly good episodes for this stuff.

Re: Since I haven't seen anyone mention these yet

[eruthros]

MUNCLE! What a great idea, and it's such a fandom CLASSIC. :)